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  1. JSM

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    Yeah, If he was appropriately slotted based on his current level of play.... that's around $30m. If he was there, I'm intrigued.
     
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    Suns getting Jimmy
     
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    Jesus christ that is a risky f***ing trade. I'm ok for the Lakers to trade some picks if they get a legit shot at the title but the way the Suns are moving is they will have literally no assets in a few years
     
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    4+ team deal. Almost gotta when salaries this size are involved and you're dealing with a NTC and an impending extension/FA


    Meanwhile DA is betting heavy on these contention windows crashing
     
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    and if they're moving on from Beal, it still isn't a great fit with Butler and the other two stars. They'd probably benefit more from trading Beal into some better roster pieces
     
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    Yeah, savvy trade by Ainge. I previously proposed removing our pick protection for one of those firsts. Maybe Ainge would still be interested in doing something like that? At that time though, I was interested in acquiring more assets to flip for a player ,or use in a Kessler trade. However, maybe we might be really bad in 25-26 and we could get into the top 4. If we make a deal with Utah, we could might be able to actually get back a first or two in the deal, if they like our picks more than what they have.
     
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    Can someone explain to me why Miami would want the 3 late first rounders vs the Phoenix 2031 unprotected? To me it's a no brainer and you go after the unprotected phoenix 1st rounder
     
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    Maybe something to do with the Stepian rule.
     
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    Yeah, the Stepian rule. Before the trade, their only 1st in the next few years was 2031, and it's not tradable.
     
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    3 is better than 1 I guess, the Heat seem to do well with late FRP. I assume they want picks right now, over an unprotected pick, 7 years from now.
     
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    They can break it up in multiple places. If you have to involve multiple teams to help facilitate this they aren't helping you out of the goodness of their heart. If Heat don't want Beal then this especially is needed (Bucks maybe) .
     
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    Who the f*** cares lol
    Those stats are just hilarious
     
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    that's one way to look at it. another way to look at it is that hoarding first round picks really isn't a good strategy unless you know you're going to be a buyer in the immediate future (e.g., knicks a couple years ago). okc and utah have more picks than they know what to do with. odds are that one of those three picks ainge gave up will be better than the one he got, tbh.

    the math starts to break down when you factor in the crapshoot nature of the draft outside of the top 5, rookie contract scales, and roster limits.

    super interesting gamble, though. betting on two teams being bad in the same year is risky, but if those two teams are cold weather small markets, it becomes more plausible but imo, both teams have superstars locked up for a while, so the likelihood of you striking it rich there is low.

    ALSO: phx quite clearly isn't interested in not competing under this ownership. someone said they'll be devoid of assets, but...they already were! they just mortgaged the future and conjured more. i don't think it will yield a title, but if you do this forever, you'll always be able to field a play-in team. and thus those picks will always be in the jhs range.
     
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    Meh 6 years from now the owner might be gone or they are just unable to field a competing team. I like the bet, the trades Utah sent are "least favoured" between 2 or 3 teams. Especially for a team like Utah. They don't need multiple mid lottery picks, they need to hit a top3 one as much as possible to be able to start a core.

    After this, I'd be pushing Ainge to unprotect our 2027 and get something out of it. Unless Jeannie and Rob want to have a 2026 summer blow it up card in hand, which I heavily doubt.

    If this Jimmy 4 team trade happens, I'm interested in the fallout. It should involve multiple players moving which can open some opportunities.
     
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    Will they though? they currently have Durant and once he goes where are they going to find the player to replace that level of talent? In the West can you get into the playin without having MVP caliber players in there. I'm not sure them moving around the edges well like they've been doing is good enough to keep them out of the lottery without that top end talent. And nowadays before you hit FA teams are going to want to get a boatload of picks the year before so I don't think cap space works as a get out of jail card for them either

    I like the risk Ainge is taking here - you get the picks with the highest chance of falling in the high lottery. Chance of a star is 60% for top 5 pick, drops to 30% for the lottery, and then only 5% in the bottom of the first round
     
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    he traded three shots for one. and phx now knows, well in advance, that they can't tank that year. you say it's hard to get into the play-in, but that's right now. five years from now it may not be. we're in a weird period where three teams that would normally be blowing it up and rebuilding (us, phx, and gs) are hanging on for dear life instead. furthermore, it's VERY easy to stay out of the bottom 5-6 teams in any given year, as there are always at least 3 teams who start the year tanking and always at least 2-3 more who join them due to bad luck/injury.

    i don't know. it's not a no-brainer for ainge at all, imo. he'd have been better off trading those three picks for a young player with promise on a cost-controlled deal. maybe he looked for that and came up empty, but it's preferable to consolidating, imo. that term sounds like something ainge fed the media and presti may be borrowing in a couple months.
     
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    If Portis finds his way to Tor, i think he's on buyout watch. He has a PO next year so he would probably opt out of there and find a playoff team who will offer him that this summer. He could still do that if he bolts for the min post-buyout and hits FA this summer.
     
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    portis makes more than the tpmle, so he's out as a buyout candidate for most contending teams (or more importantly, us).

    same with brown, whom i saw others discussing earlier.

    new cba comin' at ya!
     
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    f*** you pimple I guess
    Leonard (knee) has been ruled out for Wednesday's game against the C Bags, Joey Linn of SI.com reports.
     
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