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  1. wallangong

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    Any AD trade that doesn’t include multiple 1sts coming back is a hard no. Like, hang up the phone with no response and don’t answer a call from that GM kind of No.
     
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    Also, LaVine (30 years old), Kessler (23.5) > AD (32) , Reaves (26.75). Arguably better combination. I know it may sound ridiculous that Kessler is better than AD, but I like him in the context of fit with the team. Kessler is a significant improvement in terms of a big who could defend large centers. We could all agree that is a huge problem, right? Also, on the offensive side of the ball, Kessler doesn't make a living off of mid range jumpers. I feel AD constantly doing that causing synchronization problems in the teams offense. It's also inefficient. Offensively, he puts up good stats, but kind of empty stats if you will. Kessler provid
    es all of the rim protection and rebounding that AD does, if not better. He can't defend on the perimeter like AD, but AD has declined in that's aspect any way. But Kessler doesn't have the ball stopping offense and also the high maintenance diva whinning that comes with AD.
     
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    Wait, you’re trying to argue Lavine+Kessler > AD+AR?

    lol no. It sounds ridiculous because it is and there’s no justification for that take.
     
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    In terms of what we need. It would be an improvement. I'm not suggesting we trade AR. He would still be on the team. In the big picture, we would have an improvement. Look, we get to keep all of our picks in this scenario, plus get some picks. We only relinquish the protection on 27, that's it.
     
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    No, this is not an improvement. You trade AD and want to celebrate that we “get some picks.” 2nd rounders that we can buy every year? This is a losing trade scenario now and down the road.
     
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    We're not trading AD. That's just absurd.

    We need to change some pieces around him though. Not AR, not Christie and hopefully not Knecht. Not much has changed in my opinion of Rui lately. He's a nice talent and player but his basketball IQ, defense and rebounding are lacking (though slightly improved from last year). He's inconsistent as well which is frustrating. I'm not trying to make him a scapegoat. He's just the only real movable talent that we have that could possibly bring back a better player. If I were the FO I'd be trying hard to package him and Wood for Vuc. That doesn't address our need for a real defensive backup center but you could still go after Kessler with picks and JHS.

    The play making guard off the bench would still be a weak spot but I think that's what we are left with since we traded Dlo away for a 3 and D wing. Gabe is playing better now so I'm ok with sticking with him. Sexton is not it for me. I would not muddy the Kessler waters with trying to get him.

    Some things would have been different if Vando had been available this year. I'm glad he is sounding like he's returning to action soon with the G League. I guess we'll see what happens. It may have some effect on any potential move, although probably not. DFS was basically a Vando replacement so it may be a bit redundant to have both. Or maybe it will make Rui more expendable if Vando can return. Although ideally Rui is a better bench scorer fit. I don't think anyone will be in a hurry to do a trade including Vando.
     
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    This is the thing I’m trying to wrap my head around. How do we add talent on the cheap without giving up the first rounders. Kessler potentially fits the bill but not sure who else? Robert Williams? Any other young guys on rookie deals and on the trade block?
     
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    Why didn’t rob go after Cam Thomas and Sharpe while getting DFS? Would have cured some woes
     
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    Oklahoma West conference favorite in the playoffs according to ESPN, another 5 teams qualify for the conference finals.
    ESPN predicted the leaders of the Western Conference.
    A clear favorite for reaching the general finals is Oklahoma leading in the table with a result of 35-7.

    ESPN named 5 teams (not in order of strength) for reaching the final of the conference: Dallas, Denver ,Houston, Clippers and Memphis .

    Golden State, sharing the title of main favorite with Thunder in the ranking in November, fell to the third group of teams with low expectations in the playoffs. Together with GSW it includes Lakers ,Minnesota and Sacramento
    It's b*******.Lakers will eliminate Memphis or Houston in playoffs
    And if Luka isn't 100 % Dallas can't be considered contender
     
  10. lakerjones

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    If Luka is healthy I do think that list is pretty accurate. Only team of those I see us beating in a series is Memphis. From the games I've watched this year I do think OKC, Houston, Denver, Dallas and Paper Clips beat us. As currently constructed, I'd put us in 6th just as we currently are in the standings with the feeling that Dallas might leapfrog us if Luka gets better and that we would beat Memphis in a series regardless of home court.
     
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    And Houston too
    IMHO
     
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    Bruce Brown is available for trade
    If he's not traded by deadline he will be waived.
    Teams that have exceeded the luxury tax threshold will not be able to sign him .That includes Denver
     
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    And why GSW is always rated on BSPN higher than Lakers.Their November contender status same as Oklahoma is just mind boggling ,Curry and Green are finished, they arent athletic and going to play small ball until Curry is retired .
     
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    hear me out:

    vando/hayes/both 2025 seconds

    for

    kelly olynyk

    why do we do it? olynyk is a nice fit for what we need. a guy who can and will bang, but who can also function on offense. his contract has one more year after this.

    why do they do it? it's a gamble on vando's health, but he's a nice fit (backup 3/4--they signed the other mcdaniels recently trying to get a vando, imo) at a low price if he ever gets healthy again.

    hayes can give them a change up at center behind poeltl, and his early bird rights means they can keep him if they want. the seconds are for taking the risk on vando's contract. not that it matters too much to them, as they're in that nether region where they won't have any cap space any time soon nor are they going to be up against the apron.
     
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    Daniel Gafford today with 31 points which is his career high and 15 rebounds and 6 blocks.Is it his answer that he's on trade block ?
     
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    i really don't believe he's on the block. but they also lost to the freaking hornets. mavs have had serious injury issues for a while now, though.
     
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    I think it’s impossible right now to fill two massive holes without creating new ones. We just don’t have enough assets.
    The three players everyone would want are three we will keep: Austin, Christie, Knecht. Since they all make so little, we would need to include more players, which would cause new holes.
     
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    I’m not against blowing it up if we’ve made a legit effort to win again with our current big two.

    but I do agree that you would have to get some first rounders back for AD regardless of what talent you got back.
     
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    Different role and expectations at their respective price points. At $18m, Sexton is the backup microwave scorer who can help organize the offense a little. At $43m, you're locked into starting LaVine. I'm far more forgiving for blemishes a $18m player has, I expect a ton if over $40m.
     
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    Here's the extent of what Fischer said

    If getting Brown on the buyout market is an option, that's a huge get. I'll believe it when I see it though. I belive apron restrictions prevent him from being an option unless I'm missing something.
     
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