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Let's just beat the Rockets! Make me 50 bucks in the process!!

Go Lakers!!!

 

If we don't get a starting caliber 5 before the trade deadline, after we get bounced from the 1st rd this season, If I'm AD, I would be asking for a trade this summer.

Maybe Rob could get 2 more guards and a forward for AD. Then he'll have his dream roster of all guards and forwards.

 

I get Kessler's appeal, I do. He's young, on a good contract and is an excellent defender. More than likely, trading for him solidifies us as a top 5 defence and we have a consistent defensive identity for 48 mins with him and AD. I would be excited if we land him.

However, let's not forget Ainge's whole MO is to win trades. I'm positive he'll ask for too much, if it was only one additional first pick and taking protections off the current one Jazz own, I believe that trade is done (regardless whether Knecht is included or not).

I also still don't like the offensive fit. You, yourself have been explicit in talking about how we should use AD offensively on the move and get him the ball closer to the basket. This does the opposite and ensures that AD's offence is relegated more due to spacing issues. It's not a problem, trading some offence for defence, I'm just not sure if it's the right way to go.

Turner may be a pipe dream, but he is an elite rim protector that has shown an ability to defend switches on the perimeter - plus his offence is much better suited. As for whether the Pacers would be selling, the only way it happens is if they decide to retool due to continued middling results over the next month or so. You also have to offer them something interesting, it can't just be junk. Rui, C Wood, 29 first and 2 seconds for Turner. They're weak on the wings and Rui would help there, if Wood can come back, he'd be a decent backup C.

Turner (32) / AD (16)
AD (16) / Lebron (24) / Vando (8)
Lebron (8) / DFS (32) / Vando (8)
Christie (32) / Knecht or Reddish (16)
Reaves (32) / Gabe (16)

In the playoffs you tighten it to Turner, AD, Lebron, DFS, Christie, Reaves & Gabe with Vando, Knecht, Reddish and Hayes as bench guys in case of emergency. I think that challenges for a ring and a move you throw a first or two at to compete this and next season.

 

i like it; i just think there's zero chance of this happening. i think the kessler thing could happen at a lower price than you're suggesting, though. we may never find out.

 

Do they blink at Rui, Wood and 2 firsts for Turner?

And do we mortgage the future for what will give us a 2 year window before Lebron retires? It effectively means the rest of the 20's we will be a mid tier team with little way to improve.

 

I don't think anyone has ever even offered a FRP for Myles Turner. That's why he's never been traded.

I've been on the Myles Turner train since we got AD. Again I've never seen any team offer a FRP for him, including us. I think he can be had at that price, at least make the Pacers say no.

 

I like that idea there bud, I would take back 80% of my Rob criticism..

 

they might blink there (though they'd have to fire carlisle, imo). but we shouldn't offer that.

we can't know, but i'm almost certain we would have offered 2 if we thought we had a chance. but we didn't. because he's never really been on the market the way the press indicates. again, indy is trying to win. if they move turner, they want to upgrade, not gain future draft capital, imo.

 

Man Turner was openly on the market when we made the Russ trade, and the season after that too. He had foot issues for two seasons like Vando. That's why nobody offered up the goods for him. That's really understandable tho, you never know with bigs and feet problems. I would have rolled the dice myself. If Indiana really valued him like you think, they would have locked him up long term. Supposedly they still aren't sure, that they want to do that now either. He's on an expiring deal again this season. Make the offer and force them to say yea or nay.

It's like finally getting around to asking that girl you dig out, and her response is " What took you so long?"

 

I think Turner puts us into contention alongside Boston, Cavs, New York, Denver and the Thunder.

We’d have some legit NBA pieces around AD and Lebron - Reaves, Christie, Turner, DFS, Gabe, Vando. That’s a really solid 8 man rotation with only Vando not being a two way player but a defensive specialist.

 

Sacramento is leading by 25 vs GSW at half time and they play without Fox,but Sabonis is absolutely destroying small ball s***

 

Turner's ability to shoot as a big basically allows you to do what Boston does is get the both worlds on offense and defense. Would be a great get but Indiana is Indiana and they do everything in their power to a be 50 win team year and out. They don't suck and aren't really great: story of the Pacers franchsie

It being Indiana you know Knecht would work to get a Turner trade cooking lol

 

I’d swap out Wood for Knecht if they’d bite on one first round pick only. Knecht is good, but he most likely won’t be a playoff contributor this year.

 

Will be re-evaluated in three weeks
January 5, 2025
Kuminga will be re-evaluated in three weeks for a right-ankle sprain that he suffered during the Warriors' 121-113 win over the Grizzlies on Saturday, Anthony Slater of The Athletic reports.

I can predict when he's coming back lol

 

This might be interesting....

https://x.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1876127119656550444?t=d4-Q2PL_z40CPPuBAzrrQg&s=19

 

Interesting

I would like to get Brown. Like DFS, who looked worse in Brooklyn, this type of players excel in good teams and underwhelm in bad ones. They're system players and benefit from just being asked to do the simple things, screen, space, crash the boards, be tough and hold your ground on defense.

A lineup of AR, Brown, DFS, Bron, AD is the best Bron/AD lineup since the title year. Brown and DFS are insane fits with our big 3. I don't think we have the package for him without spending a FRP, Gabe and Vando are not expirings so Toronto likely won't take them without a sweetener. If it takes Rui to get him, I wouldn't mind it, but we do lose some more scoring

 

straw grasping and maybe trying to piss off beal to get him to drop the no-trade clause. guessing vogel went to upper management and was like--look, this already sunk me once. at least me try to bench the anchors before you fire me.

i'm not sure how phx gets out of this, but they already pulled one rabbit out of a hat when tyus jones had to settle for a vet min there (they'd be way worse had that not happened).

 

I wish we had a vet minimum to throw at him.

 

i don't think he would have taken hit here. he had a guaranteed starting spot there--something we couldn't offer unless we moved dlo, imo. and i think we tried like hell to move dlo over the summer, too. just bad luck/timing.

then again, reaves/jones backcourt would have the same problems reaves/dlo did.

my main point is phx had a couple guys fall into their laps in morris and jones that could very easily not have, and they'd probably be down at the very bottom of the standings had those things not happened. as it stands, some sucker will help them with their nurk and/or beal problems, and they'll recover to at least make the play-in, at which point kd/booker will likely be enough to make opponents nervous. sorta like us with lebron/AD.