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  1. sirronstuff

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    with a player option for over 50 million next year? He’s about to find out that people don’t value him that much anymore at this age.
     
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    As a salary dump..Brooklyn would probably take him for Simmons, or he might end up back in Chicago for Lavine. Bradley Beal might prefer south beach. It depends on whether Pat would want any of them.
     
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    my money is still on kuz/brogdon. washington needs to not suck, if only for one year. jimmy's still a lot better than kuz, and brogdon's dead. kuz has a declining contract, which is a nice feature for miami, and he might be a guy who responds to playing in that environment.
     
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    They might work too. I expect that somebody will take him by the trade deadline.
     
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    it's just hard with such a big salary, as has been discussed most of the season. the teams that jimmy could actually help get over the top would have to lose useful players to make it work, which ends up defeating the purpose. plus the aprons make it to where the money has to be so close...

    i expect him to move, though, yes.
     
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    Kings and Grizzlies are the ones to watch for Jimmy I think. Kings in particular, this seems like the hail mary move to make to try to keep Fox.
     
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    yeah, forgot about the kings...

    derozan/huerter/lyles for burks/butler works.

    memphis doesn't have the salaries unless they move one of their big three. i guess they could move clarke/smart/kennard/konchar, but that's 4 for 1.

    if i'm miami, i do either of these, though.
     
  8. KuzmoBall17

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    Golden State Warriors seriously interested in acquiring Nikola Vučević

    According to Anthony Slater, Marcus Thompson II and Sam Amick of The Athletic, Vučević has become a "more discussed" trade option for the Warriors than Miami Heat veteran Jimmy Butler within the Warriors organization and the NBA as a whole.



    «Warriors » has the necessary assets to match salary of $ 20 million.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles...more-realistic-trade-target-than-jimmy-butler
     
  9. VincePT

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    straight swap for Rui, would you guys do it? its a yes from me, but we probably can also do Gabe+Vando+Wood and 2nds
     
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    I would do it yesterday,but it's not up to me and a lot of people here don't want neither him or Valancunas
     
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    I think we’re holding out for Ainge to trade us Kessler. If that falls through I can see us with one of the other names that have been discussed.
     
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    Ainge would rather commit suicide than trade someone to Lakers and Kessler not better than either of Valancunas or Vucevic.He is younger and maybe has more potential, but not in this NBA with small ball and he's not shooting 3 at all
     
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    This is an oversimplification. Vucevic is obviously a better offensive player, but he’s always been a liability on defense. What do we need more from a Center? I’d argue the latter.

    Valanciunas is a big body and good rebounder, but bad on defense. I also don’t like the fact that the only real path there is to trade Gabe - who I’m fine with moving if we have a plan to get a legit backup PG.

    It could reasonably be argued that Kessler is more valuable to us than the other two. That said, I’m down with Vuc or Kessler. While I agree dealing with Ainge is unlikely, I thought the same thing 2 years ago when we made the Russ deal.
     
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    Ainge hates us, but ironically that might end up helping us get a deal done because he relishes the chance to bet on our being terrible when our picks convey. I think he really wants to get the protections removed from the 2027 pick we already traded him and to add one more of our picks to his stockpile.

    Kessler is a much better player than Valanciunas or Vucevic. I'm no longer interested in those two. Its Kessler, Nic Richards or Robert Williams in that order.
     
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    While I’m not particularly enthusiastic about Kessler due to his lack of fit with AD because of spacing concerns, I do like the idea of utilizing the removal of the protection on the 2027 pick as a form of compensation. Combining that with the 2029 first-round pick (unprotected) essentially feels like sending over 1.5 picks in value. Additionally, as noted, Ainge seems to place significant value on our picks. I see Kessler more as a long-term replacement for AD rather than a partner alongside him, though he would be a significant upgrade as a backup center. Kessler’s youth and the fact that we’d hold his Bird Rights during the same offseason LeBron is likely coming off the books align well with a potential long-term plan. This justifies trading a first-round pick for someone who would, at least initially, serve as a backup center for the next two seasons.
     
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    Send Wood, JHS, the 2031 first-round pick (top 13 protected), the 2029 first-round pick (unprotected), and the removal of protections on the 2027 pick to Utah in exchange for Walker Kessler, Johnny Juzang, and Utah’s 2031 second-round pick. While it’s a steep price, it addresses the need for a young, defensive center in Kessler, who fits the team’s long-term plans, and adds a developmental prospect in Juzang. The deal hinges on valuing Kessler and Juzang's upside and impact enough to justify parting with significant draft assets.
     
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    Basically THREE firsts for Kessler is nuts.
    That’s an extreme overpay and would rather trade someone into a tanking team’s cap space and pick up a serviceable big on the buyout market than do that.
     
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    But you also get Juzang and a second. Juzang is an excellent shooter and could also create his own shot.
     
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    Juzang is cost controlled at no more than 3 million per year for 3.5 more seasons.
     
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    It's 2.5 first. We likely are not in the top 4 of 27 anyway. We would have to do terrible during the 26-27 season. But we would have AD, Reaves, Kessler, Knecht, etc. So we likely would be a middling team if anything.
     

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