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  1. abeer3

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    it's a developmental step. this isn't the mj 90s, where you can just work in isolation forever as a perimeter player. you have to learn how to punish those double teams and find different opportunities. i think he'll get there, but he's probably right that he'll have less fun doing so.

    and if the wolves didn't foolishly invest in gobert, the double schemes wouldn't work as well. teams don't get to double SGA.
     
  2. sirronstuff

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    Padawan has much to learn

    needs some mature mentors around him, but he wouldn’t listen to them anyways
     
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    OKC on the list of interested teams is interesting, not sure how real that is. Spurs make sense if they want to get Wemby some real playoff experience now. Their runway with Wemby is so long that they should be able to build multiple championship cores. Magic would be interesting too, although I wonder if they could keep Suggs out of that deal.
     
  5. TIME

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    I'm higher on Kessler than most here. But I also doubt we are able to acquire him.

    His biggest flaw is his FT shooting at just over 50%.

    Pros: young, legit 7 footer, big frame, durable, better per 36 rebounder than AD, better per 36 shot blocker than AD, can score if fed (scoring 10ppg on only 6 attempts).
     
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    ^So he is a rich man's Hartenstein?
     
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    imo, hartenstein is better on the short roll as a decision maker/play maker on offense, and is tougher on the boards. he's not the shot blocker that kessler is.
     
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    I wonder where he’ll end up to eventually be robbed of his joy next


     
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    I don't know, Pat Riley did nothing to upgrade that finals roster besides adding the great Terry Rozier.

    :Laugh:

    I get why Butler is upset with Miami. Didn't imagine it would be this messy of a divorce where it looks like Jimmy is tanking his performance and now a 7 game suspension. But I mean we've seen this from Butler numerous times.

    I think Jimmy probably got one final push of good play to show the middle finger to Miami and Riley.
     
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    I am curious as to who will trade for Butler, 50M/yr is not easy to match, plus it would have to be a team in win-now mode as he's 35.

    also he always ends up fighting with his teammates or FO wherever he goes.
     
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    Good luck Jimmy. I thought it was understandable when he got frustrated with KAT and Wiggins in Minnesota and wanted out of there (although he was way over the top about it) and I thought it was fair to want to be in Miami instead of Philly. This one, though, I can't really resonate with him. Butler miraculously got that team to the Finals twice, but he's 35 and clearly not the player he was even a couple of seasons ago. Shams said he's pissed that he's not getting an extension and that the Heat couldn't bring in Dame or KD or Kyrie to extend the championship window. Buddy, you're not that guy anymore. There never really was a championship window, you just beat Bucks/C Bags teams in the bubble that weren't quite ready yet. They were an 8 seed that caught fire in 2023 before getting stomped by the Nuggets.

    Miami isn't even bad either, they're 17-15 and the 6 seed in the best Eastern Conference we've seen in a few years. They're one of the best run franchises in a destination city. What exactly does he think is going to happen? The Rockets keep getting mentioned, there'd still be like 4 teams I'd pick to come out of the West before the Rockets with 35 year old Butler. The Warriors? I don't see that happening. Now that I think of it, Memphis could actually be an interesting spot for him.
     
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    So much for "Heat culture" b*******
     
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    it's hard to sympathize with these guys, they are completely unhinged and detached from the real world. I get Jimmy wanting to win, but Jesus he's owed 100million dollars for this season and the next and he's acting like a little b***** (again) to the people writing the checks. Ask a trade if you want, but at least keep it professional dude.
     
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    I"m typically a players guy but man Jimmy already got the payout for past performance with that contract. That's a lot of money owed to a rapidly declining 35 yo SG.
    Lebron James is a one of one lol
     
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    Jimmy is just being the same guy he’s been forever. Face eating leopard stuff for Miami.

    speaking of—where’s the media firestorm/ridicule for how Miami has handled this? How could you not see this coming? Hubris, imo—they thought they were different. They’re not. They couldn’t land kd or Dame despite both clearly trying to get there, and now they’re botching this, too. Shine should be off this dime, imo.
     
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    Team completely looks different with the trade (plus having Hayes back). Looks like a defensive minded tough team which needs an offensive guy PG like the ideal version of Dlo to be a contender lol.

    Lavine on this team could put this team over. Going to be a tough call, you need to lose Rui to make the numbers work but man with DFS, Max, and Knecht a lot of bodies to take those minutes now. Understand not wanting to move Rui as he's shown real growth but you need another dude who can take it to elite teams (Cleveland makes it pretty clear who will work consistent in the playoffs and we've seen enough Denver games). Lavine has played well against Cle and Boston as an example. Tough call to make
     
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    That’s where I’m at right now. I’ve been railing for a big bruising defensive center for years now I think, but watching this team with DFS I think scoring and playmaking should be the priority now. That was IMO Ingram before the DFS trade, but now we have enough big wings.

    Levine is actually gettable, and give us the scoring punch we need to make a run this season. I understand the injury history, but I’m willing to take that risk for what I think would be a perfect fit. We have both DFS and Knecht to replace Rui if he goes out in a trade and I think they got the position covered.
     
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    Not for me. I would not make a move for Lavine. I'm still wanting the big center to finish out what we have.
     
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    I want a center too ideally, but I think scoring and playmaking should be priority now.
     
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    I'm just way too dubious about Lavine's ongoing health and his gnarly contract. I feel like the center is still the main ingredient we are missing. I like Max with the starters lately with the killer D to pair up with Reaves in the backcourt.
     
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