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I’m not giving up Knecht in a Kessler deal.
Even with the addition of Kessler and Sexton, we wouldn’t be able to beat Minny, Denver, Cle, or Boston in a series.
We are in a very interesting time where it would be wise to keep our young talent that has already shown they can produce at high levels. LeBron may, or may not be, gone in another season and we all know that it’s going to be a long and difficult process of rebuilding.
Knecht is in a shooting slump, but he’s already shown he can score in different ways. He can also develop into at least a League average defender with his size and athleticism.

 

It’s not a bad contract it’s a guy who may never play again.How many guys careers have ended because of foot problems . Missing a whole season + because of foot problems is a huge red flag

 

Hell no to Knecht period. That would be really short sighted and stoopid.

 

i'm not sure indy views themselves the way you do. i don't think teams have a lot of cash to spend in FA next year, so it's not like turner's a big flight risk for them. they've already extended him once when everyone thought they'd trade him; i don't see why they won't just re-sign him after this year. if they don't; they'll have to go get a starting center with limited resources (or whatever they get from us in trade--so why do it?).

anyway, haven't heard his name in any rumors, and the pacers aren't in tank mode. that's why i never concoct trade scenarios there.

 

The point is they don't care about Vando at all, they care about collecting assets because they're in a full rebuild. From their perspective, worst case scenario is they get multiple firsts from a team they think is going to be terrible in a year or two in exchange for taking on a guy that doesn't/can't play at all on the books for a little over $10 million APY for the next three years when they're not trying to win anyway. Doesn't seem too bad to me.

 

I don’t know.Seems like bad business to pay a guy 20+ mil to possibly be hurt.Sexto/ Kessler isn’t what i would pay 2 frp for.I would for DFox though

 

Because they aren't coming out of the East this season or anytime soon IMO. They have Isaiah Jackson and Wiseman coming back at 5 next season. Indy isn't exactly a hot bed for FA. So picking up a FRP and some young talent on cheap contracts is a win win. They aren't tanking by trading Myles Turner. This is the perfect time to grab Myles Turner. I seriously don't believe that the Pacers would turn down a FRP for him. In the past, nobody wanted to offer them one because of his foot issues ie Vanderbilt. The Pacers folks say we never actually offered a pick for him or Hield. I don't think he's untouchable at all.

 

That makes no sense. Teams aren't like championship or bust, especially small markets. Otherwise only Boston and OKC would not be tanking.
Indy just made a move last year for Siakam. They have a young core on Hali and Siakam and will want to improve on the margins and get a deep playoff run at some point. That's a huge win for them and their 5y window is set.
Jackson and Wiseman are not even role players at this point, they're not covering for Turner's department.
If they trade Turner, they'll want a player that makes them better, not worse. They won't find it with us

On the other one, I'm not giving our 2 FRPs and the 2027 protection away for Kessler and Sexton. That's a move that slightly improves us but we are still outside the top3 in the West. That's not worth mortgaging our next 5 years for such a small upgrade. I'm all for it just for the protection and will gladly wait on Utah until the last minute.
Not trading Max and Knecht at this point as well. Only for a Dejounte, Fox or similar type of players.

 

I like Knecht asa prospect but otoh Sexton was the 8th pick in the draft which is probably the right spot for ahim nd in a redraft similar to Knecht Kessler would go in the lottery as well.

Kessler is a good young piece. The tow future firsts are more valuable then either IMO and if you can make a trade that makes you at the fourth best team in the league you pulled the trigger.

 

Yeah, I’m a fan of Kessler’s as well due to what he brings and his age, but I’m not gambling on us being a contender anytime in the near future.
I’m just more conservative with our picks and youth because of the looming rebuild.

 

Meh..Turner is on an expiring 19M deal, to receive 2 players and a FRP is a huge win for them. That's some nonsense. The only reason he is still there is because he was hurt for 2 seasons, not because they consider him some kind of foundation piece.

Free Myles Turner!!!

 

i'm much less a fan of sexton than pioneer seems to be.

kessler's worth a future top-8 protected pick, imo. maybe a bit more, as he's already demonstrated that he's starter quality.

knecht for kessler with no picks outgoing is somewhat interesting. i think knecht's upside is higher, but i can hear the argument that he's basically the same age as kessler and may be similarly close to his ceiling.

 

OK purple tinted glasses on so you can pick on that but since I brought up Donovan Mitchell as current STUD in the Cavs game breakdown and Knecht as future STUD …. tell me why DK “can’t” become the much bigger and better all around STUD of the two and I’m guessing it won’t take long from what we have seen already. If he was on a lotto team with a green light am guessing he’s waay back into ROY contention with the consistent minutes and no benching worries.

 

Better than Donovan Mitchell bro? Are you serious?

Agh Kessler...maybe..kinda hard to say right now.

 

Two- three years tell me why not? What’s he lacking and he’s 6’6”.

 

Do it,Rob
For s***tino should work without any FRP
Whitmore sounded frustrated with the situation, and despite him putting in a lot of effort to try and improve his standing within the team, he isn't getting the role or the minutes that he is looking for. Ime Udoka hasn't factored him into the long-term rotation of the Rockets in a significant role.

 

he'll be a great sweetener whenever houston cashes their chips in. i feel like jalen green has always been on this way out. if i'm sac, green/whitmore/2 1sts sounds pretty fair, tbh.

 

I like Kessler more as a long term replacement for AD than as a current complementary player to AD. Sure, Kessler could take on the role of defending huge centers now, which would greatly benefit AD. But I'm not sure about playing both of them together due to offensive spacing concerns. We could theorically trade the picks for Kessler and help win now while simultaneously initiate a mini rebuild in a post lebron /ad era. Lesser/AR would be free agents the same pff season that lebron retires. AD could be traded at that time.

 

If we trade those picks we can't rebuild until at least 2031

But agree with your general point. Any center we get will play at most 15 minutes a game together with AD. So it's mostly an AD insurance and an option to give AD some additional rest and take the Sabonis and Nurkic of the league