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  1. pika1708

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    Just one thing: Valanciunas is not a rim protector. He has around the same blocks per 36 as Hayes, and he's less mobile too. He's a worse defender than Hayes lol But yes, he's still a big body you can throw at a few centers and save ADs body for some minutes

    I wouldn't trade him for Gabe (if he's healthy). He's our only POA defender and fixing a hole while opening another isn't the approach I prefer.

    Also, I think Bron had the biggest say on Klay vs Val. I mean, it would only happen if he took a pay cut so I imagine he was the one deciding for whom he would do it. If he was only doing it for the flexibility, he would have done it anyway.
    And as abeer pointed out, he had to take a cut of over 20m, just to get Valanciunas. It seems a bad decision from his standpoint to be honest
     
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    I also think they hung on too long to the Klay thing and should have switched to getting Valanciunas because he fit an obvious need at MLE money that we weren't going to get as a vet min. But who knows exactly what happened there? No one really. That was my big beef for the summer as I mentioned. My ideal would have been getting Grant and Valanciunas and I would have been satisfied with those moves. We ended up with neither. I understand that Portland's ask (two FRP's) is too high for Grant. I just thought we could have met in the middle on that one with one. But again, who knows? Didn't happen. I guess we'll see where we are at in December.

    In the meantime, I don't mind the starting lineup as mentioned although I wish Vando was healthy enough to start instead because he shores up the D. Rui is still better to me as a bench scorer than a starter. The good news is with either Rui or Vando and the rest of that starting unit we've won 65% of our regular season games the past two years. Doesn't solve our playoff meltdowns vs. Denver but it should be good enough to get wins and keep us out of the playin theoretically.
     
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    Get off my lawn!
     
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    Once again prediction by BSPN's Kevin Pelton
    Lakers are in play- in tournament vs Pelicans.Why Minnesota is so low and too much trust in DeRozan

    1 ОKC – 53,7
    2.Memphis – 51,1
    3.Dallas – 49,7
    4.Sacramento – 49,4
    5.Denver – 47,4
    6.Phoenix – 45,4
    7.GSW– 44,8
    8.Minnesota – 42,5
    9.New Orleans– 41,6
    10.Lakers – 40,7
    11 Houston– 40,4
    12.Clippers– 36,3
    San Antonio– 33,5

    My annual projections combine box score numbers from my SCHOENE projection system, adjusted plus-minus data and my guesses at rotations for every team based on current injuries.

    After a dismal year for the projections, which correctly predicted just nine of 30 teams lol relative to their over/under win totals last season
    Maybe it's not yours expertise.
     
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    How in the hell is Golden State 7th? Based off of what exactly?Who makes this s*** up?

    Is someone hurt in Minnesota?
     
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    I know, they are trying to be Slick about it too.
     
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    Lol..an OXmoron. Kudos
     
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    Did you just call me a moron?
     
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    An oxy one.
     
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    The medical staff changes about as frequently as the roster.
     
    Slick2021, Sep 27, 2024
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    Hopefully she tells JHS this vegan crap is bad for athletes
     
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    I’m all for beefing up our staff on all levels.
     
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    Absolutely. Glad we are making moves around the staff, it's highly underrated by fans but anyone with experience in sports knows how valuable it is to have a good staff.
    OKC looked healthy and Chet survived the whole year so hopefully she's any good
     
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    is shaq really still beefing with dwight over the superman BS? it's been what? like 16 years now?

    man, just let it go already
     
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    Soft a** sissy like KAT in New York? Good luck.
     
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    I did not see this one coming!!! I always thought KAT would be moved but after last year's success I thought it would not happen.

    This is a big move by both teams. It's brilliant by the Knicks to move from Randle and get someone as good as KAT.
    Not sure about the Wolves angle, Randle is not a great pairing with Gobert either, though Donte is a nice addition to their backcourt. Getting a Pistons' FRP is awesome although they shouldn't be making trades for picks now. Really head scratching...
    I think Ant and KAT were never buddies and KAT never loved Ant taking his spot, so maybe Ant asked them to move KAT
     
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