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How is Trent an instant starter with us? Is he moving DLo, Reaves, or Rui to the bench?

Are you rushing into accepting a subpar trade to dump DLo just so you can open more playing time for Trent? If so, are you confident that AR can play PG full time?

I don’t think Trent’s decision has anything to do with the player options, nor do I think it somehow indicates Rob was too incompetent to clear a roster spot.

If you hypothetically erased Reddish from the roster such that we had a veteran’s minimum spot to offer, I’m pretty confident Trent would have still picked Milwaukee over us because their roster construction gives Trent a much clearer opportunity to try to earn his next payday

I totally agree with you that I don’t think we can afford to remain inactive, and I’m not buying the idea that we can simply wait until the deadline. It IS very frustrating, and we DO need a backup center. I just don’t think any of this means that our inability to sign Trent is in itself some massive failure.

 

I'm somewhat of a Bucks hater but GTJ and Prince both on minimums is really nice for them. Still think they're with the Pacers, Cavs, and Magic in a tier below the Knicks and Philly (with the C Bags at the top obviously), but they're probably at the top of that third tier.

Trent would have been an awesome pickup had we traded DLo. But given the current roster, signing Trent probably would've pushed Max or more likely Knecht out of the regular rotation. I think the FO has decided those guys need to get real minutes to either develop for the post-LeBron era or establish themselves as legit trade pieces.

 

Rob failed this FA class, i get it if the the team did well last yr but everyone that returned were all disappointments last yr

 

Not adding Plumlee was weird. He fits a need and has shown he can give you 10 minutes in a playoff game.

Not really sure what this team is trying to do. If they don't even want to try to win a title might as well blow it up and get the most value for AD and Lebron out there.

 

Lebron isn't going anywhere, and trading AD would be a terrible idea. I'm not sure from what I've seen, so far of Pelinka, gives me any confidence, that he could do a rebuild, and produce a contender anyway.

We have two ALL NBA players now, and we are still considered, a play in team.

 

Shut up, Bronny earned his spot. :facepalm:

 

Although, we really really do not need TP taking minutes away from K4, so it may have been by design.

 

This.

 

This but also Bucks probably offer them a bigger role than we can... Prince is their go to back up forward behind Middleton and Giannis, while here he'd be fighting for minutes with Rui, Vando and K4. Same with GTJ, he's the clear starting SG for them while here he'd be fighting for mins with Reaves and Max... better chance for him to show out and get the big contract he wanted there.

 

dont need to rationalize Pelinka incompetence

 

And look at it from TP’s perspective. He made BAE money last year and the Lakers theoretically could have given him a raise. The previous coach, who had as one of his most public flaws the fact that he played you too much, just got fired. The team invested into Christie and Knecht who would take a similar spot in the rotation as you.

Do you really want to take a pay cut from your current employer for that situation? Or follow the coach who clearly loved you to a team with a more obvious spot for you in the depth chart?

Not all veteran’s minimum opportunities are the same. Obviously Prince and Trent are much more productive than players like Reddish, so it would be awesome to have them for depth instead. But why would they want to be depth pieces here without a clearly defined opportunity for significant playing time compared to Milwaukee?

Again, I get the frustrations with the FO’s inactivity and mismanagement on the margins.

But I don’t think it’s as simple as “Well if they just found a way to clear 2 roster spots they could have had Trent and Prince for the minimum”. Even if hypothetically we never gave player options to Reddish/Hayes and had two open veteran minimum slots, I don’t think we could have landed Trent/Prince.

I’m frustrated with the offseason in its entirety, but the inability to entice Trent or Prince for the minimum is completely understandable to me.

Now if we’re switching gears to vent about why we didn’t clear the roster spots to bring in a bigger back up C for the minimum like Plumlee or Theis, THAT I can fully get behind. That remains a gaping hole in our depth chart so we clearly had a big role we could have offered them

 

Sounds like you’re admitting that this specific gripe about his incompetence regarding the inability to sign Prince/Trent for the minimum, isn’t exactly rational.

I can get behind that. Like I’ve been saying, this is a massively frustrating offseason so sometimes venting is warranted and productive even if it’s not completely rational.

But if you’re trying to rationally argue that when it comes to not landing Trent for the minimum, that this transaction in a vacuum represents some massive demonstration of Rob’s incompetence, I can’t get behind that. To argue that we could have landed Trent if only Rob weren’t so incompetent to give Reddish a player option or if Rob had the skills to do a salary dump trade, that math just doesn’t add up to me there

 

naw incompetence as the 3 fa he signed all came back and he's done NOTHING so far besides giving out unreserved 4yr deal to a 2nd rder that shouldn't have been picked at all

 

Depth is great, when you have a Championship Quality Team.
This is not one, so I would much rather see our younger players get valuable burn and improve than guys who won’t be here the following year.
That being said, Rob’s inability to bring in a serviceable big TWO summers in a row is inexcusable and it will piss me off all season, until he fixes it.

 

Agree: Trent and prince aren’t failures. No legit big is a failure.

 

We had interest in Trent (per Buha, Irwin and Stein who framed it a little more carefully), but did he have interest in us?

He has a clearer path in Milwaukee and we've done nothing to clear up a position log yet. We might have him a 25 minute a night role post trades or he might be fighting with Max to see who gets 15-18 minutes and who gets the DNP. But I agree seeing yet another player you were interested in go elsewhere and for pennies is frustrating. Period.

Seeing the scraps on the market go elsewhere is frustrating. We're stuck like Chuck and need to really a**** the cost of missing out. How long can you hold on to the dead weight on the roster, hoping to attach them to a bigger deal before anyone worth signing and replacing them with all went elsewhere.

 

Rob’s failure was giving Hayes and Reddish player options.Extremely disappointing he did that