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  1. pika1708

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    Nowadays it's not like that. Especially with players, teams and agents having media reporters at their service and running the narrative they want to
     
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    I'll have to say I probably disagree there. I think you are describing the exception, but not the rule. When you have lots at stake, and tens of millions of dollars at risk, you are more than likely going to take the safe route. Where is the risk reward to not doing so?

    yes, if you pay someone the minimum and can cut them with little financial impact, that's great. But what if the locker room is already divided now?

    Maybe Dwight Howard isn't back because he busted a move on Austin. There is a lot we don't know, but I thought he was low risk to bring back for what he brought to the table. But he's had tranny incidents and multiple baby mommas in his past, so we know that LA and Hollywood BLVD may have been too much of a distraction for him. If you know these things and have experienced them elsewhere, don't you at some point "learn your lesson" when dealing with other players?

    I'm happy taking a pass unless there is 100% support from the stars who have to deal with said player's baggage. Sounds like they are not on the same page with that.


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    some of us definitely have ptsd from drummond and westbrook, who are very similar, imo. and no, lebron and AD's injuries don't excuse either of those acquisitions, which were destructive on their own. that's like saying losing a limb doesn't matter because you have some more serious chronic illness. how about we don't also lose a limb?

    and i'm not going to pitch a fit. if anything, i'm trying to inoculate against the stat watchers that will be upset we DIDN'T sign wood. the first time we lose a game because we didn't score enough, his box scores will be posted.
     
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    Lakers linked to Gay

    and Noel before he signed with the Kings
     
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    In a vacuum, it's fine. But he literally had 4 of these go viral in 24 hours. Poole, KG, Kuminga, and CP quotes that each would get their own news cycle in the span of a day. There's "real" and then there's being an a** who's mouth is currently bigger than his game.
     
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    Nothing but respect for Draymond because he will never say something about another man that he wouldn’t say to his face
     
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    Lol..Yeah..and you would be probably be the first one, to post some stats, if it were otherwise too.

    Big Drummond...SMH..that guy played 20 games here. You seem to be stuck on Drum too.

    Meanwhile..Marc "Our best center since Shaq" Gasol, played in 52 games and was friggin washed. Probably why we signed Drummond?

    Then he had the audacity, to pout his fat a** right into retirement, because he got benched. That part of the story, tends to get glossed over for some reason.

    Anyhoo...Wood on a minimum contract, would be an outstanding pick up ..period. It's still not even a serious debate. The folks actually getting paid, to run this show, seem to have the same opinion on the subject.
    We'll see how it plays out soon enough.
     
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    i'd definitely post stats relevant to team success.

    because it was a bad signing that resulted from a bad thought process and harmed the team.

    he was substantially better than drummond, too.

    lol, gasol told the lakers he planned to retire following the first season. we got him on the two-year deal because he was worth more than the vet min at the time of the signing.

    love that his body type matters more to the box score watchers than his impact. gasol was a positive, which is more than we can say for...basically all of your favorite players.

    gasol's dbpm was near the best of his career with us, and the team was better when he played, period. but if all you care about is scoring and grabbing uncontested rebounds...

    yeah, like drummond was a no-brainer. well, i guess he is...like wood...

    i think this is what we've done with wood, biyombo, etc. "hey, let's keep in touch as things unfold; let us know if you get another offer but are interested in hearing our pitch."
     
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    4x all star and Bronx legend heading overseas

     
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    Negative...Lebron and AD are my favorite players, and they both fill up that box score too correct? Without those two, the rest of this chit chat, is just meaningless killing of time.

    However on the subject

    Gasol couldn't even get down the court on fastbreaks. What body type are you referring to? Fat and out of shape? The dude was slow as a glacier, guards zipped by him all season, defend a pick and roll? Forget about it. Then he was gunshy to boot. The supposed gravity that he presented as a deep threat, never materialized.

    I'm seriously not remembering this Gasol experiment, in the same manner here.
    No..we can't talk about his stats, because they sucked, we have to look to his perceived " intrinsic " value now. The only "success " we had with Gasol, was before AD got injured. It's wasn't due to Marc Gasol.
    Lol..He couldn't score or get to uncontested rebounds at all. He was washed.
     
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    Gasol was very effective the first part of that season. That Schroder/KCP/LeBron/AD/Gasol starting lineup was awesome. Then he got COVID and wasn't the same, like a lot of guys that season. Drummond was never a very good fit next to LeBron and AD, he didn't provide the vertical spacing of McGee or the ability to anchor the defense and let AD roam like Dwight. He wasn't a bad player, just not what that group needed. Ideally, Marc would have regained his early season form and we could have brought Drummond off the bench to feast on backup bigs but thats not how it played out.
     
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    Gasol wasn't the same, because AD was injured and not playing. AD went down in game 28. He came back in game 59. 10 games after we got Drummond, who injured his toe in his first game. Gasol missed 8 games due to covid true, Dennis had covid that season as well, maybe some one else.

    He was becoming a liability on the court. So we picked up Drumm on the cheap buyout contract. NO.. It wasn't a game changer either way.

    Besides AD not getting back until late, Lebron only played in 4 of our last 30 games that season. There was a lot going on, yet I'm still amused ,at how Gasol gets praised and Drummond gets thrashed by some folks. He never actually got to play with Lebron and AD much.

    Then the playoffs happened...
     
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    because gasol was good and drummond was bad. that's why. i'm amused at how you tell stories about him being a bad defender when all measures say the opposite.

    for those wondering why this is pertinent to the FA thread, christian wood is andre drummond. right down to wanting a starting spot despite not deserving one.
     
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    Meh..Gasol wasn't good just because YOU say he was. His coach benched him, his GM went out and got another 5 to replace him. However Abeer knows better than both I guess. Maybe they overlooked his DPM or something.

    Gasol didn't exactly earn his spot either, there wasn't any other 5 on the team but him.He was gifted it. When he got some competition due to his lackluster performance, he sulked.

    Now...soo..Wood wouldn't deserve to start over Hayes? Why is that?
     
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    i know better than you.

    wood may start over hayes on whatever 14th place team was making this choice.
     
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    You think you do..I haven't seen the evidence of such though.
     
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    and you never will.
     
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    Can't see what doesn't exist
     
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