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yep. fournier = hield. if you liked the idea of hield, you should like the idea of fournier, imo. similar contracts, too (fournier slightly cheaper).

anyway, to me he's a vehicle to get a look at reddish, too.

i get the hesitation, but i don't think we're getting turner anymore, or anyone at that level. if we can pick up an asset while moving our three non-contributing players, it's worth considering.

 

Still probably better than Nunn/Bev but then it brings up the question why we are fiddling with moves with questionable benefits with our limited assets. I mean we got Nunn/Pat Bev +1FRP and Westbrook+1 FRP for trade assets, lets use them right, I don't expect the world for the first trade but let's at least get a good 3&D wing not, a struggling kid. Try and extract Turner/Hield with Russ. I understand the Knicks deal probably involved 2nd rounders but the money attached to Nunn and Bev is usable for a player of value attached to a FRP.

 

Wouldn't you agree that with Lebron, AD and Russ, some of these players deemed to have faults, depending on which faults those are, aren't as detrimental to us because we don't need other guys to throw the team on their backs, perhaps once in a while but not night after night.
This is why Fournier is intriguing to me, he can't carry the Knicks but he can slide in here nicely, play a little much-needed small forward, offensively can play about any position and his misgivings on D isn't going to show as much when he gets burned in iso when that player faces AD inside (and hopefully, Turner). He can pass, his ability to score whether from the perimeter or driving to the basket is what's big for us. We have specific needs from players, we don't need the full pizza, just a few slices.

 

They are definatly similar. Do you have stats comparing their per game and per/36 numbers? That would give more of an indication of their similarities than total does.

 

Those stats are a bit misleading. Hield has 7 years in the league, while Fournier has 11. Hield is a much higher volume three-point shooter than Fournier. So, I wouldn't say they are the same. However, Fournier has the size/ability to play the 3 thing going for him though. Fournier would also likely be easier to obtain. So, it's kind of a take what we could get situation.

 

Fournier sort of addresses the big wing and shooting problems at the same time. Not too many players available that can do that.

 

i wouldn't call fournier a big wing, tbh. at least he doesn't play like one. i think reddish qualifies as a larger wing, though. their heights are close, but reddish is an inch taller with a 6 inch longer wingspan.

 

As for defense at this level, I think it mostly boils down to effort and accountability. If the coaching staff doesn’t force guys to play at least decent defense, it’s their job to sit the player until he decides to buy in. Of course, there are levels to this, but every player, no matter what size or skill set is at least capable of playing average D.

 

I’ll buy that for a dollar!
Ask for a First, and settle for two seconds.

 

Another thing we could do is send them a second or two in exchange for a first. The Knicks have several first in the coming years. It could potentially give us more flexibility on trades.

 

Yeah, I know he plays smaller than his size. But at least he is 6-7. Right now, I don't think we have anybody taller than 6-6 at the wing, besides Lebron.

 

This is missed a lot with a team with great interior defense. Playing team defense is something anyone can do if they buy into the system, locking down a speedster in iso is something that takes anticipation and a high level of lateral speed, not as needed in a good team defense with interior rim protection.

 

Fournier SUCKS but as long as it's for Bev/Nunn im all over it.

 

As being one of the more a defensive-minded coaches that the game has ever seen, Thibs might value Beverly higher than the typical coach would. Bev could also be utilized as sort of a defensive mentor for New York's younger guards of similar size, such as Quickly, McBride, and even Brunsen. This adds additional value to New York's receiving end, thus increasing the likely hood of the trade going through, and even us getting some sort of pick (s) back.

 

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