2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

I’m very skeptical that Kuminga and Moody are more valuable than the 2027 and 2029 picks right now. Teams are always enticed by the mystery boxes. Draft picks are always talked up until they became a real player with actual strengths and weaknesses. Right now Moody and Kuminga are second year players that can’t be part of an NBA rotation. I don’t think GSW could move either for a lottery pick right now, they might each return a low FRP.

Side note, I’m not sure GSW would even trade for Turner. That GSW system is very hard to pick up, some guys just aren’t cut out for it. There’s a reason why they’ve made little-to-no midseason acquisitions over the years and why I guy like Looney has been more valuable to them than objectively more talented bigs. I’m not sure Turner fits.

 

NBA is weird this season: Chicago was struggling going into the Milwaukee game, and what happens? They beat Milwaukee.

Ok, fluke, right? They play the C Bags the next game who I thought would have put the Bulls back into reality, right? Nope. They beat the C Bags. That's two top seeds in the East.

Last night? They lose in overtime against the 8-11 OKC thunder. LOL. I still think they'll be looking for a trade.

Check this out, too. LaMelo and Hayward out for Charlotte and have to go against Minnesota who have won 5 in a row. Minnesota should win, right? Nope, Charlotte with the victory. LOL.

They'll be looking for a trade, too, but I wouldn't touch Hayward unless as @abeer3 noted you attach 1sts. There's some trades we can work there (with the Bulls), additionally....as @abeer3 noted earlier.

AD is playing All NBA first team. I'm not happy with some of the rotations/minutes Ham is dispensing, but apart of it makes me think, he's still experimenting, and past that, he's showcasing Nunn. Russ also only played 19 mins yesterday.

Something might be brewing, but it may not involve Russ this season. It might involve (as we've speculated) something to the degree of: Bev, Nunn, and Jones going out.

Barnes is balling for Sac, Turner is ballin but in a contract year, and Hield can shoot lights out. There's also Eric Gordon. Haven't seen him recently.

However, I'd be targeting Bogdan from the Hawks. I'd like to see him in a couple of games before, but he's making $18 million, he's 6-5 with a 6-11 wingspan. He shoots lights out. Fragile? Yes, but I think he would fit seamlessly and propel this team to a 4th seed or so if he's healthy.

Just my two cents. Let's see...

 

Unfortunately the reality is that when you trade you can't simply look at your roster, extract all the junk and go "here" to another GM, it has to hold some level of interest for the other team. I keep seeing trade scenarios around here that all include Nunn, Bev & waste-of-a-roster-spot Jones. Be real. No one want's that unless they are interested in the expiring and want to offload a longer-term deal on us. I don't see a lot of those out there besides Hayward and Hield. Bogdanovic has a player option but why would they trade a useful player for that junk of a package?

 

To get anything of value back for Bev and Nunn, we’d have to attach a first. And our 27’ first is extremely valuable.There’s a high chance we’ll be a very bad team come then and that’ll give whatever team trades with us a pretty decent chance at a top 3 pick.

 

Now that Russ doesn’t play like a total disaster, someone will take him. The question is: will Rob actually win the trade, or just take back players who flounder?

 

You’re spot on. The Turner train has probably sailed. He is playing himself into more money than his extension. So if you do trade for him with a first he can just turn around and walk if a better offer comes his way.

It’s too risky now. I hope we could sign him for $25 per in the off-season though.

 

guessing any trade we make leaves us with about the much cash to spend in the offseason, just in case.

 

The problem with coughing up a future FRP this early for Turner or Hayward, is that both could very well be injured before the trade deadline. Then we are stuck, it's nothing wrong with bidding our time IMO. Now that Lebron is back, it's not some terrible idea to see how we look with a full team first.

 

It's a tough choice on one hand giving up FRPS when Indy has no other offers coming in really. There was the Clips rumor but they haven't got anything until 2027 either.

Rob doesn't want to give up picks but think of it this way. Who is better, AD & Turner or KAT and Gobert? I'm taking the former and what did Minny give up for Gobert? PatBev, Vanderbilt, Beasley, Bolmaro and 5 FRPs? That's obscene. And besides, we are probably getting Hield in the deal, we haven't had a steady hand @ the 3 in years.

 

Malik was better from both the field and 3 than Hield last season. Melo too I believe.

 

It was Hield's career-worst on 3s, changing teams and whatever. His numbers are back close to normal, at about 39% now.

 

On 10 attempts a game. He's not like these other players taking safe wide open threes. He's a gunner.

 

Indiana trade is probably dead. Team is likely looking at other options at this point.

 

At 7-11, we’re within range of salvaging this season. It’s going to be very important to keep the momentum going and get some more W’s… I’d almost pull the trigger on the Indiana deal right now even if just to take Hield and Turner off the floor for Indiana and maximize our chances of winning that game

 

they need to make a move now

the west is wide open this season

 

Yeah. Season is weird. But i agree that we could make a run with the right move or moves.

despite everything we’re only a few games out of the play in and even the sixth seed. If the front office can get something done then we can make some noise behind AD and LeBron.

 

Yeah when we were on route to going 2-10 with some key injuries, I was on board with waiting to see if the core of this team was even capable of somewhat digging out of that hole, evaluating what the team is made of, what our biggest needs were, etc.

But I think now is the perfect time to do something.

On the Schröder and Bryant front, it’s a small sample size but my takeaway is that Schröder (and the rest of our supporting cast in the back court) is solid enough that we can withstand the loss of Westbrook and wouldn’t really need to bring back another PG. Meanwhile with Bryant, I like his energy and ability to score around the paint … but he’s not a big presence inside defensively. I think the rotation can still use another legit big man and we’d still be able to find certain matchups to get some productivity from Bryant too.

I.e… I really am starting to think that Hield and Turner are exactly what we need.

I’m skeptical of anything happening with Indiana though. And while I understood the initial patience in making a trade, I’m not sure I buy the logic about waiting until December 15th. I understand some players are not eligible to be traded until then, but I’m not sure how much that really applies to the specific teams that make sense to be trade partners.

At any rate, there’d be nothing to stop teams from already discussing and agreeing to trade frameworks involving the players who are only eligible after 12/15. So waiting until 12/15 really only makes sense if there is a specific player you’re targeting and in close negotiations with that team already. So if that date comes and goes with no trade, I think it’s increasingly likely we stand pat.

 

They won’t make a deal- even though we could totally make a real run in the playoffs with a few additions.

 

We've been a repeater offender since this season started. No way out of that, we've had 3 years of paying the tax. Our salary right now sits at 172 and believe the lux tax is 161. and of course, we have the MLE and at least one vet min (which offset cap/tax by 1 million each) so we are not paying too much thanks to generous increases in the lux tax levels by the NBA. No, our concerns lie with out FRPs, understandable, however, if things keep looking brighter, we could see a move.

And it seems the one most are expecting is Indy. Turner/Hield bring us over 40% 3-point shooting combined on 13.4 attempts per game from 2 starter quality guys. Awesome D from Turner (and Buddy could be taught Ham's ways and pick it up some there too) the ability to spell AD a bit more on minutes and frankly Lebron too. The loss of Westbrook with the bench is offset by moving Lonnie over to the bench (making life even easier for him) and Schroder, Bryant and Brown.
A Turner, AD, LBJ, Hield, and Reaves starting unit is big, long, and formidable.
A Thomas Bryant, Lonnie Walker, Troy Brown, Dennis Schroder to lead, (fill in whoever for the 5th) is a good bench.