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  1. OX1947

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    This might be the only type of trade that might be able to work with the assets the Lakers have. Lavine would be a good 3rd guy for sure.
     
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    Chicago traded for Vuc. They want to build a competitive team with Zach
    Coby White might be available. Don't want him though. On the other hand, he could lead the 2nd unit and bring some spark of scoring and young energy from the bench
     
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    i'm not sure 10 million isn't overpaying for drummond (or trez). who's offering over MLE for these guys? maybe for one year deals after they strike out in other ventures, but nobody is out there prepping a 20per offer for drummond right now. nobody would trade for him when cleveland made him available for literally anything less than a year after getting him, right?

    don't think chicago goes for it, but tbh, they probably should. he's not a franchise player, better to move him while his value is high--especially since you currently suck anyway.
     
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    We need health and shooters.

    If Lebron and AD were as healthy as an nba player could be going into the playoffs, we probably aren't having this conversation.

    Who knows if Dallas would trade with us, but seeing Seth Curry get traded for Josh Richardson last year crushed me. That's the kind of guy you want in a team like this. Bertans? Same thing. So many others. If you get the big 2 healthy, some vets, some shooters... It'll be tough to best. Not perfect because we can't get a big 3 like Brooklyn, but that's how we have to play offensively. LeBron can control a game better than anyone, and ample spacing only improves everything for him
     
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    lol, bkn has three all nba-ers and joe harris, who's a rich man's bertans.

    anyway, i'm still on team "quit trying to get specialists because they don't perform here". just get high-iq, multi-tool players and hope things click at the right time. we've got the hard part done for now.
     
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    I know they do, but our two are extremely versatile. That's why I just want more shooters around them. You obviously can get the multitool guys (Ala Morris finals last year), but we HAVE to get more dependable shooters.
     
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    Cleveland has a promising young center who they traded for in January, after getting Andre and they're rebuilding, no need to put money into another center so their buyout was not really an indication of Andre's market value. There is no telling what some teams in some markets will do. He ain't getting paper like the last contract again, for sure, but he's a simi-star in some small markets who have little star power, I mean Detroit did pay him 127mil or not.... and Cleavland did take on this contract before they had another cheaper option. Clearly, he isn't worth big money to the Lakers but he may be worth more than our price point for a traditional center to someone. After the Knicks make their moves there are not a lot of teams with big chunks of cap to throw out there so we'll see then. I don't think he's gonna take our vet min or even the regular 6mil MLE if that's the only exception available.
     
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    Yeah but Chicago already has a decent PG. Schroder wouldn't really help them. THT and Kuzma isn't nearly enough.
     
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    this. they didn't trade for vucevic just to turn around and deal lavine
     
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    Here is my pipe dream off-season. Harrell declines his player option, which will allow the Lakers to have their full MLE.

    - Sign Mike Conley for full MLE, multi-year deal.
    - Re-sign both Caruso and THT for reasonable deals (ie 4 years/$24 mil total each)
    - Sign and trade Kuzma for Gary Trent Jr.
    - Trade KCP/Gasol/22nd pick for Myles Turner
    - Sign Otto Porter for vet minimum
    - Sign Gorgei Dieng for vet minimum
    - Sign Avery Bradley for vet minimum
    - Sign Tony Snell for vet minimum
    - Sign Dwight Howard for vet minimum
    - re-sign Markieff Morris for vet minimum


    Depth Chart/Rotation minutes:
    Conley(30 min)/Caruso (18min)/Bradley (in case of injuries plays PG)
    Trent(28 min)/THT(16min)/Bradley(4min)
    Lebron(34 min)/Porter(14 min)/Snell
    AD(32min)/Morris(16 min)
    Turner (30min)/Dieng(9min)/Dwight(9min)
     
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    yeah, just don't agree. don't see how any gm who watched the past couple of years thinks "this guy could really help us succeed and deserves the precious little cap space we have". i'll be very surprised if he gets an offer over 10 per to start. that's about what mason plumlee got last year, right? and plumlee is a better basketball player.

    don't see utah letting him walk for MLE money. they'll offer more to keep him or offer an S&T.

    don't think AC signs for that, despite recent reports. THT will be a strange situation and will depend on what other teams show up with. could end up paying literally double that amount for each, though.

    could happen; not sure i'd want it. i think people are letting his bad shooting against phx carry too much weight. he was a useful part of the team this year. and he's versatile on both ends. i think he's more valuable than trent.

    indy hangs up.

    would surprise me.

    wish we did this instead of drummond. think he goes for more than minimum, though. still will be cheaper than some center options, including drummond. and is better for what we need.

    this is possible, i think, and not a bad pickup depending on what else happens in the backcourt.

    would surprise me, but less than porter at min would surprise me.

    could happen. though it seems he's happy in philly.

    yeah, he'll be available there and does fine for us, imo.


    in short, i don't think much of this is possible, but i guess that's what makes it a pipe dream!
     
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    If he was $12-14m less per year, I'd S&T DS for him. But he's set to make nearly $38m in 2023. I think he'll get bought out before he sees that deal through, but we're a couple years from that.
     
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    yeah, that was another FA bullet dodged (in that we didn't try to get in on that after lebron). the lesson is clear: do not max out non-max veterans. just hit a couple singles instead. boston "won" FA with horford and kemba, only to basically be glad to be rid of each within a couple years.

    and i agree: at half his salary, we're talking! wish he was closer to buyout range, too, as he'd fit great on the current squad.
     
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    hard pass

    last thing we need is another constantly injured star
     
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    do we have one already?
     
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    I’d roll the dice with Kemba if the money is right. Realistically what are our alternatives that are better?
     
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    i think the problem is that we really don't have any bad money to move, and he's got two full years left on that deal (player option on second that he'll probably need to take) at 40 per. so we'd have to s&t schroder and add kuz or kcp just to get in salary range. add in that he's 31 years old and has had pretty persistent knee problems since coming to boston, and things get dicey. we can't end up with 40 million in dead money to end lebron's prime/start the post-lebron build.

    i honestly wonder if boston and dallas would consider a porzingis/kemba trade. dallas wanted kemba in FA, and i think they're ready move on from zinger. both guys are similar in terms of production when healthy, and both guys frequently aren't healthy. zinger's deal runs one more year, but he's a decent fit next to their core and he's younger, so there's still a chance he might right the ship.
     
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    My default position on any C bag coming to the Lakers is no.

    Note: Rick Fox was forgiven because he’s a Laker at heart
     
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    Jayson’s always spoken highly of Lakersball. ;)
     
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    Don’t want Kemba. Honestly I’d rather pay DS $20 mill a year instead. At least he plays D.
     
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