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  1. Alcindor

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    Alex ONLY got 20 minutes in the NBA finals? Like that's no big deal with the starters. First of all, you're wrong, he got 24.3 minutes in the finals. He was a big problem in those minutes, the HEAT had to counter for him. No lazy passes he'll scoop em' up. I hope Reeves is gonna pan out like that, but don't go declaring him better than Caruso in the NBA finals just yet. The kid has no such experience you never know what is going to happen. He has my full backing, I hope he is one of those that rise to the occasion and the challenge. It is easier when you are a rookie and no one is watching you or gives a damn about you. Pump the brakes just yet.
     
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    Uhhh, that happened the second Mitchell was traded. The only advantage we have is the weather and proximity of business opportunities. I would love it if he wanted to go home.
     
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    if bron goes to clev, he should take his bff AD with him n any other klutch client players we have
     
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    So with the Jazz and Cavaliers deal all that is left for us is INDY and they can stick to their guns.
    They'll probably now ask for 2 FRPs non-protected, We take Daniel Theis and they get Nunn to make up for the loss of THT.

    To that, I say, shove it where the sun doesn't shine to INDY. Nunn is better than Hield and a no-deal as far as I am concerned. So all that for Turner then.
    Hell. to. the. no.
     
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    I would imagine Westbrook is dealt within the next day or so and we get some sort of combination of:

    Bojan Bogdanovic, Mike Conley, Clarkson, Malik Beasley, Rudy Gay, etc.

    Just get Westbrook off this team and get some valuable players back. Westbrook, 2027 1st for Bogdanovic, Gay, Beasley. We could also take on Clarkson as well, but having Clarkson/Reaves/Walker/Nunn on the team is a log jam. And the idea of what Nunn could be as a playmaker compared to Clarkson makes me value him more.

    Beverley/Nunn/
    Beasley/Reaves/Walker/Christie
    Bogdanovic/Gay/Brown Jr/
    LeBron/JTA/Gabriel
    Davis/Bryant/Jones
     
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    Meh
     
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    Utah is right there with a whole lot of dudes to trade.
     
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    He’s not that great of a prize to begin with. I would rather give up a First for multiple pieces from Utah. I never did want Buddy- he’s about as over rated as they come.
     
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    The same thing applied to Alex brother. Ok 24 minutes then.He got his chance and capitalized on it. For some reason folks think I'm overly negative about him. I've been watching that kid since HS. He's a local Houston product. He did well in the Bubble, he earned his ring, so did some of the other guys. I don't think any of the young Bubble crew stepped up to the plate in the following season like they should have, but that's water under the bridge now.

    Don't sleep on Austin Reaves, he has more offensive skills IMO..gotta put in the work but I think he opens some eyes this season.
     
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    Like I said..nobody is giving up 2 FRP for that duo. The problem with Myles is that he seems to get hurt everytime the Pacers get serious about listening to trade offers for him. Three seasons in a row now.
     
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    Gotta say… this Mitchell trade is having me rethink the value of our picks.

    I had been arguing that they may not be as valuable as we thinking because it’s so far in the future that there are too many unknowns involved. Yet the Jazz just traded their superstar for a package in which an unprotected 2027 and 2029 FRP were two of the main assets. From a team that projects to have a young core under control that should be able to compete for a long time, big contrast to our situation.

    I don’t think Sexton and Markannen are big prizes for the Jazz, just some young players for salary matching that they might as well take flyers on while they tank.

    Say hypothetically the Pelicans use their swap to take our 24 pick which locks in the 25 pick as our own. And hypothetically this Mitchell saga was pushed off until next summer.

    I think we could have been legitimate bidders to offer 25, 27, 29, and some swaps/second rounders to just absorb Mitchell into our cap room.

    Obviously there is no point dealing on that specific hypothetical, but it begs the question on what other players may be in Mitchell’s situation next summer. These picks will likely be able to fetch a LOT more when we’re in position to just absorb the salary of our desired player(s) instead of having to dump Russ in the same transaction.

    But still, my mental health can’t handle a year of dealing with these future hypotheticals while watching Russ continue to wear the purple and gold… get something done with Utah for just one (ideally protected) pick please!
     
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    IDK..I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet. On your roster idea..I don't think the rookie gets any run this season. I'd rather have Vanderbilt than Rudy. Beasley is the same size as Clarkson 6'4..he seems to be mostly a three point shooter and he hits at a decent clip, but Jordan is the more explosive scorer.

    https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm...rfrom=2022&player_id2=clarkjo01&p2yrfrom=2022

    Either way...I'm on the Turner train until he gets moved elsewhere or the Pacers announce that they are keeping him.
     
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    Don't cave at the last minute LOL. Somebody, somewhere ,is going to want out of their current situation this season. It's the NBA..I wouldn't want to rush in just to " do something " and regret it in December.
     
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    Wait and see if a team has good enough talent that need to salary dump. At this point, tell Pritchard and Ainge and whomever to eat a (bleep).
     
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    Many here have been saying this. These are likely going to be lottery picks, they are not throw ins, they are big assets, our main assets. Valuing and collecting first round picks just let the Cavs get Mitchell, it let us get AD before, it is typically what helps land stars, they aren’t usually traded for other stars. That’s why I’m not doing 2 picks for Hield and Turner, it’s laughable, an impatient move that will cost you later. I’d rather let Russ sit home than waste those picks, like you said see what they get us later. That or only give up 1 for a solid package of players from Utah, it’s just a shame the whole Charlotte thing fell apart, that would have been even more ideal.

    Side note, it’s possible that we don’t see first round picks as very valuable around here because Rob wastes them. Danny Green and 2nd wasn’t enough for Schröder? We really needed to GIVE UP one to get Russ. Just bad asset management.
     
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    WB/Walker/THT are explosive scorers too though. Beasley is a better shooter and is expiring.
     
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    agree with all but the bolded. if the situation is actually so bad that you'll pay a guy 50 million to sit, you trade him for basically anything you can get, imo. take on future salary with no picks or give picks for better players, but if you have eyes on competing, you can't pay a guy 50 million to sit. that's for tanking teams.
     
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    Russ ain't sitting at home..it would be a total farce if that happened. I can't see Jeannie getting down with that, or Darvin either. It doesn't make any sense, we already have problems getting fair trade deals with other teams. We have relied on two guys asking out lately, (Shaq too)to come to the Lakers, to get anything done. That would be a terrible look for us, it most definitely wouldn't make potential targets, feel all warm and fuzzy about trying to force a trade to come here. " If it went left with Lebron and AD...I'm going to get all the blame".
     
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    THT
    I assume you are talking about Nunn instead of THT. Beasley is a better shooter true, but I think Clarkson is the better player.
     
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    I agree i think hield is overrated and turner is always hurt. AD 2.0
     
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