2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

So am I, it seems like Rob believes there's a deal on the table for THT + the 2029 FRP. I have no idea what type of player they're targeting, let alone who the specific player is, but it feels to me like if we can manage to send only the 2027 FRP for Kyrie we'd hear a subsequent trade announced in short order.

 

Why do you say that, specifically?

 

Once the trade is actually done, we can have a better idea of what other deals may be made. I don't really see much of a need for some other move if we landed Irving, Harris and Curry. That would mean that THT, Nunn and Russ were traded. In that scenario, we've gotten all the shooting we could have dreamed of. Three guys shooting over 40% from 3 with volume. It just doesn't get any better than that. Wings? What wings would we need? We have Reaves,Johnson, Gabriel, Brown,JTA, and Lebron right now. Harris is a wing, we have AD and two young bigs, there are multiple lineups available with that roster . We have a 6'6 draft pick that shows some promise on perimeter defense, he's a wing. In a perfect world, I wouldn't mind another 6'9 player with a jump shot.. (Swider?) Seriously though..how are all these guys expected to play meaningful minutes? We don't have to be 15 deep, you normally only play 9-10 guys in the playoffs. Even if we don't get Harris, we'd still have Talen and probably Nunn..I'll roll with that. We now have a solid roster with flexibility to make a move at the trade deadline if we need to do that. Once this trade goes down, this will be an excellent roster as is IMO.

 

That's fine.

The results matter more than timing on this one.

We just need him here by training camp and we're good.

He'll fit like a glove in our offense.

Can incorporate 5 out offense, too.

Different between 4 out 1 in and 5 out.

 

The reported hard line he's drawing on including it in the Kyrie deal (Jovan saying the deal would be done now if he included it). The vague quotes about the roster "not being done yet" despite us being at 15 now if you count Pippen, Swider and Christie. The acknowledgment that we need more shooting, the implication being that is the case regardless of the Kyrie trade. The willingness to stand up to LeBron over a 2029 FRP, even when LeBron is indicating through Windy that he "couldn't care less" about the 2029 pick. All of this reluctance about adding the 2029 pick from the same man who threw everything into the AD trade pretty nonchalantly. Looking at the roster and seeing its very guard heavy at the moment but nevertheless we're talking about trading Russ for (probably) 2 more guards. Bringing in Lonnie specifically who would more or less fill the exact same roll as THT on a roster with Kyrie.

Of course I don't have any actual knowledge of anything, this is just my impression of the reporting particularly after Jovan said the current offer is Russ/2027 FRP/second rounders (so no THT). But this all makes more sense to me if the 2029 FRP has been earmarked for another trade, in all likelihood with THT.

 

What shooting would be needed outside of Irving and Curry or Harris? Where?

 

It TOTALLY is fair for a mercurial player who could decide to retire on a whim at any given point, who also just so happens to be a player no other Franchises wants to touch. The problem is, Marks is playing hardball, and you can’t really blame him for it- it’s his job to squeeze the most out of this situation.

 

We're at 14/15. Pippen Jr and Swider are on 2-way contracts.

 

Great post! I am in favor of trading Westbrook, THT, Nunn, 2027 1st and 2029 1st for Irving, Harris and Curry. This is a go all in plan if I ever saw one. Our free agent signings would also make a lot more sense after such a trade, both in terms of skills and the fact that we replace two Klutch clients. I suppose roster would look something like this:

PF: Davis, JTA, Johnson, Gabriel
SF: James, Walker, Swider
C: Bryant, Jones, Huff
PG: Irving, Reeves
SG: Harris, Curry, Brown

 

That's two guys. Literally no one on the current roster besides LeBron shot better than league average from three last season. And he did so by.3%.

 

That would be a defensively challenged starting lineup. If healthy AD is amazing but everyone else is below average with Irving and Harris in the bad spectrum. After watching a Finals where both teams got there with solid defense we would have to hope for perfect health and to just out score everybody. And that isn’t taking the repeater luxury tax into consideration.

 

I hear you, but it is tough to not put shooters around AD and Lebron. We saw what happened last year with that as well. It seems we are putting a big next to AD. Thomas Bryant is a decent shooter, but I wouldn't call him a sniper. So then that leaves only one more position. You would think either Harris or Curry would be the likely starter at the 2. I suppose you could try to start a defensive player there and see how it goes?

 

So maybe go with Reeves, JTA or Brown at the 2? If they could hit 35% from three and play good defense, that could work. It's nice to actually have options though.

 

This is why I don't really want Curry, he's a good player but (1) he'd likely be more expensive to get from the Nets and (2) its really hard, and maybe impossible, to field closing lineups with him and Kyrie. With Harris, he's at least 6'6" and pretty sturdy, so he could maybe be passable in a switching scheme where he's playing the 3, or even a more traditional scheme with AD, LeBron and another big helping. Kyrie/Reaves or Brown Jr./Harris/LeBron/AD could be good enough defensively to close games IMO, but Kyrie+Curry is just way too easy to exploit.

 

So what? That's 3 at the least 2 guys that shoot over 40% from 3 with volume. That's exceptional. Lebron is a volume 3 point shooter. Most of the other players besides AD and Jones are decent enough to knock down open looks. They will most definitely get plenty of those with Kyrie, Lebron and AD on the court.

 

Why would Curry be more expensive? He makes 8 million dollars, Harris makes 20.

 

true. I don’t have any sources here. Just feel like we won’t be done dealing once the dust settles with Kyrie and Russ.

 

Golden State won a chip with the 11th ranked defense too.

 

Exactly. Curry is on a great contract and perceived as a better player than an injured Joe Harris. Harris is owed $20 million for 2 more years and basically missed a whole season. The Nets may just throw in Harris in a Kyrie trade to get off his money, getting Curry almost certainly requires an additional asset.