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  1. LaVarBallsDad

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    well, they have an owner who basically gives them a blank check. if we had the same, we'd be in a similar boat, imo.

    laker-hating is such a full-time occupation. kyrie was trying to get to the lakers and using the (real, imo) threat of taking less money to do it. he decided against it in the end. he wasn't thinking about the media or lakers fans. he was thinking about getting out of brooklyn and keeping his money. he couldn't make both happen simultaneously and chose to keep the sure money. so what?
     
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    cranjis saying exactly what i did: monk's a bargain at mini mle. i don't think we have a FA route to the roster balance people want. that has to be remedied by trade. i'm ok just nabbing the best possible value at the mini mle.

    monk in the fold makes me much more comfortable using nunn's salary as ballast, too. i've been a bit gun shy on that one because if nunn could play, he's also a bargain. but he's fairly redundant with monk.
     
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    Russ and/or THT will be traded.
     
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    I didn't want Irving and everything that happened yesterday is part of the reason why. You don't want your future tied to a guy that random and unpredictable.

    However, I think saying we got played is just typical people trying to pile on the Lakers and these kinds of tweets should be ignored. If Kyrie was willing to come for the minimum as we were told, you have to make the call and see if that's legit. I don't fault the team for doing its due diligence and seeing if they could either add him for cheap or trade Russ for him. That's just Rob doing his job.

    This wasn't a Kawhi situation and we didn't lose anything by kicking the tires to see what the deal was there.

    I'm not sure what the doom and gloom here is to be honest. Kyrie took the money and stayed like literally 99.99999% of the world would have done.
     
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    Lakers FO failed last year.

    They did bring us a chip, though. Don't care if people want to place an asterisk on it or not.

    I'll give them this year to right the ship. If they don't, then Rob should be fired.
     
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    one or the other has to happen to fix the roster, i think. weird thing is i expected a THT trade to happen at the draft if it was going to. but so few players moved on draft night, which was weird.

    yeah, i don't get why everyone's dunking on the lakers about it. makes no sense. if it was their team that kyrie threatened to take the mini mle from, they'd have discussed it on social media, too. but no one wants to play for their team.
     
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    Here's what nobody is saying and this is key: Kawhi took up all of our time in Free Agency. We had to wait in him.

    We were very fortunate that Rob was communicating with Green and had the had a plan in place in the event Kawhi signed elsewhere; upon Kawhi signing with the Clips, Rob signed Green.

    However, all of our plans were on hold until Kawhi signed. My point? Kyrie didn't take up any of our time during FA. We were able to get a decision and now we can proceed with our FA plans uninterrupted and hopefully out a viable roster together.
     
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    it's hard for me. the first year of the rob era was awful, but it really seems most of the bad stuff was magic-driven. then i thought we did well the next two years. i actually thought the harrell/schroder/gasol summer was a freaking home run. that team would have been awesome if they were healthy (and schroder came off the bench).

    the russ trade was obviously awful. and tbh, the hield trade before it wasn't going to be much better.

    so yeah, i'd say this year is the rubber match.

    though i'm not sure rob is really the right person to blame. to me, our organizational structure sucks, and anyone would have a hard time functioning within it. the rambis thing, and then having lebron as sort of another gm-level voice...it's a lot.
     
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    I'd slot THT in at SG. He might have the length and bulk to guard some SFs but he's still 6'4 and the Kawhi's and Tatum's of the league will eat him up. We're in the same trouble as last year if we're going into the season with THT slotted at SF.
     
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    i think reaves has won the sg slot. and i think lebron is paid 50 million to guard kawhi and tatum, dammit.
     
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    He chose the job.

    I understand the structure sucks, but he accepted a promotion to boot in title.

    Just accepting any Lakers position is going to come with pressure and then you have such an emotionally invested owner, the family, etc.

    Kudos to him for dealing with it. But when the rubber meets the road, I need to set results.
     
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    yeah, i'd be fine with moving on if he can't dig us out from the russ debacle. it just mirrors vogel for me, though. ultimately, jeanie and i guess kurt are calling all the shots, and that doesn't appear likely to change. i don't think a high profile gm would want to come here, which is a shame because we should be able to parlay the brand to attract the best and brightest.
     
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    People need to brace for REALITY....

    1. Irving isn't coming here
    2. Monk isn't taking 6 million, when someone is going to offer him double and perhaps as much as 15 million
    3. Westbrook is likely coming back unless front office bends on inclusion of future 1st rounders- and even then it isn't going to be an ideal package
    4. Lakers are dumpster diving in FA
     
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    no one's offering monk 15 million. maybe on a one-year deal, but even then, i highly doubt it.

    still think it's 50/50 russ is gone.

    agree on dumpster diving in FA.
     
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    If THT is at SG then Monk or Nunn would HAVE to start at pg. Can't have Russ/THT playing together. Absolutely zero shooting.
     
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    I said maybe 15 million; but I could EASILY see a multi-year offer for 10+

    Considering he is 24 years old, has shot 40% from distance WHILE MAKING 2 per game the last two seasons- he is going to get a nice offer- considerably more than 1 year and 6.3 million
     
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    Agreed. We can move forward with whatever our agenda was beforehand
     
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    eh, maybe. only a few teams have the cash to do that, and many of them probably have young players who they want to give those minutes to.

    further, he's said himself in recent days that he'd take 6 million from the lakers over 10 million from someone else. not sure why he'd say that if he didn't mean it.
     
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