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no way in hell would i include AD in any deal for kyrie

and kyrie isn't going to be a laker anyways. the nets aren't interested in westbrick and no 3rd team is going to help us out

 

yes and no. if lebron wants all of his money, no. if he's willing to take a temporary cut, then no problem at all.

 

That was actually hailed as Lebron showing commitment to us at the time. The thing was how he kept Cleveland over the barrel with those opt out clauses. Rather ironic now, ..that an opt out clause this season, would have probably snared his former Cavs teamate without all these complications.

 

Yeah I know. I am basing this on the report that Lakers are the only team interested in a sign and trade, which might be bogus anyway.

 

if they offered kd/kyrie for AD/russ, i'd have to listen. and i'm AD's biggest fan on this site.

i still think the nets should opt-in and trade kyrie for russ and a 1st today. i think there's a real risk if he opts out that they get nothing in return. and they're capped out even after he walks.

 

well yeah if they offer KD of course, but no way they do that. and i'm 99.9% certain kyrie doesn't leave 40 million on the table anyways

we're stuck with westbrick

 

Not big on gambling, what does this mean?

 

Technically..Kyrie could sign into Westbrook's space 1st, Lebron could resign to whatever amount afterwards because we have Bird rights to him. The Kyrie angle is because we wouldn't have Bird on him, he needs the cap space 1st or he can only get a 20% pay increase.

 

we don't know what bkn's offering.

is it only like, 100 million guaranteed over 3 years? we know it's not his 4 year max.

what if lebron's told him that he'll get 6 this year and then a 4-year max next year? is he actually leaving money on the table?

this is why i said he actually does have leverage. if bkn was offering the full max, yes, he's giving up more money than we've ever seen someone give up. but they're not.

 

i'm not an expert, but i think it means it's where everyone's betting, and the book is worried they'll lose their shirt if they let that number get higher.

not sure i follow.

there's no path to kyrie max if lebron isn't signed first at a lower number than his max.

assume we have 60 million to spend (guessing 125 million cap--51 committed to AD/THT, then empty roster charges and maybe reaves' and stan's cap holds). lebron's hold eats up most of that, so kyrie can't be signed. but if lebron signs first for say, 18 million, then his hold doesn't exist, and we have the 42 to spend on kyrie.

the following year, we can sign lebron to his max using the retained bird rights.

 

It could just mean that there is too much action on him landing with Lakers that the book doesn't want to get too overextended. Or it could also mean there are signs )or inside information) that Kyrie is coming to the Lakers so they took down that option. This is similar to draft night when it was leaked that Banchero was going #1 overall, the books locked that option for people to place wagers.

 

Kyrie to the Lakers is a wrap if he opts out. Hell of a gamble for an injury prone little dude. Even if he was on his best behavior all season, it's a strong possibility that he's going to get injured anyway. LOL. The absolute chaos ensues, once folks realize that the key to keeping Kyrie, is that we can't trade Westbrook!! Sure he COULD be traded for 47 million in expiring contracts...hmmm...John Wall for Russell Westbrook?

 

Stein update on Kyrie and KD

 

lol, that is pretty hilarious.

 

to me this is why they should do the opt-in and trade with us. you've got kd under contract. use russ's expiring to flesh out the roster and see if kd calms down after a season with simmons and a well-rounded supporting cast.

i don't think kd fetches what AD and PG did at his age.

 

The only way Irving walks away from 30 million is the certainty that he's going to cash in in 23. The only way the Lakers can do that is with Russ's salary.

 

More from Stein...

Wall to Clippers?

Collins and Brogdon lead the charge in the most likely to be traded category

Looney likely staying

Same for Portland’s RFAs

 

If Kyrie comes, Russ won't be on the roster.

 

If it's the MLE..How could it be possible otherwise? You really believe that kid would take two seasons of short money? I'm interested into exactly how you can come up with the math that works.