2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

If he isn't traded I want him John Wall'd. Couldn't stand to see him in the lineup again.

 

The minority of 2, and your takes are at least saner

 

What …. you don’t want to keep buying the dips …. errrr …. (this Dip)?

 

I work in finance and totally agree with that adage. To me, cutting the loss quick is letting Russ expire and not trading for damaged goods with more assets and definitely not waiving him.

 

You're keeping it too much within the basketball court.
Russ has no chemistry with the rest of the team. Nobody is on his side. He complains a lot and can't assume his mistakes. He literally doesn't get back on transition. There's a ton of clips of him leaving his man just to try and get a rebound. If not for the on-court unfitness, he's also a big NO for all non-basketball stuff, in regards to chemistry, willingness, grit, effort. And that translates to what we see each game.

He just doesn't care. But I do, so no, I can't accept another season with Russ

 

Your opinion (nor mine) impacts the situation. So you not being able to accept something doesn’t change anything.

You make a good point on chemistry, and we didn’t have any chemistry when we got to losing. I think that’s normal. I wonder how much of the leaks is trying to save face and finding a scapegoat. Russ didn’t seem ostracised throughout the season, it just felt like everyone was down and playing for themselves, team wide.

 

Based on what we’re seeing in all the obituaries on our season, the only guy in the building who was still advocating for Russ at the end was Vogel who will be gone soon. The front office doesn’t want him, the team doesn’t want him and a lot the fans don’t want him. Just can’t see us keeping Russ around under those circumstances.

I also don’t think we’re digging a worse hole by trading him as long as we get guys who can contribute and help us get back on track.

 

The problem is my comment before this - no one seems to want him here.

I can’t recall any real support from players on the team. Certainly the front office is making it clear bringing him on to begin with wasnt their idea. Russ hasn’t handled fan backlash well at all (although I agree that it’s been over the top particularly the public encounters). His wife even spoke up about it.

My thought here is just that there are a lot of reasons beyond just on the court (which was terrible) for both sides of this to want the whole experiment to end. That was one of the most miserable teams I have ever watched play in any sport.

I’ve held leadership and management positions for groups large and small. Personality conflicts are pretty much always a fatal flaw no matter how smart or talented the group was. It’s not apples to apples with sports but some principles do cross over. (That’s part of why I’m always criticizing the lack of leadership from our front office).

I’d argue that personalities and chemistry are even more important in sports given how much time the teams have to spend with each other on and off the court.

we took a big swing and it whiffed. Team needs to move forward without Russ.

 

Beyond the headline, Interesting stuff on Vogel and even Magic from folks around the league.

again, you can’t stand pat on this team.

 

Unbelievable f****** failure of a head coach Kurt Rambis getting repeatedly on Vogel in front of team members.

I will bet Handy opts on his own accord not to come back next year after they fire Vogel. He can get a job anywhere probably at a raise in salary.

 

I wouldn't expect this team to bring him back, but I'm waiting on that.

He needs to go; anybody who has any common sense can see that.

But this is an FO that lacks common sense and they're cheap, so who knows?

We just have to wait and see...

 

That article is a little one-sided.

"Magic knows what he's doing...".

Uh huh.

What a train wreck.

 

Definitely one sided.

but our organization is disfunctional to say the least.

 

Let's run it back one more year so we can see this squad in all its glory

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and destroy the Laker franchise for all eternity...... Ok, let's not do that

 

Yeah, after I read that, all of the credibility of this author flew out the window.
If what he said is true about Rambis’ behavior, our FO will be a mess until he and his wife are gone. Inexcusable, unprofessional behavior.

 

the piece is poorly written, but man, do they have a good source.

it's obviously a vogel sympathizer, but the above is just truth. this is why lebron and AD being total bullshitters about lue's playcalling pushed me over the edge. shut up. you know that stuff barely happens. it's just the one thing you can pin on a coach. the reason rondo hated rick carlisle is because he dared to call plays from the bench. fans and media don't seem to get this.

coaches can build systems within which you operate (e.g., vogel's drop pick and roll coverage, phil's triangle offense, etc.), but if everyone just disregards, who cares. and the idea that the coach is out there calling all the sets is hilarious. i called the sets for my jv basketball team. me. not the coach. he gave us a menu.

the last line kills the credibility, and i get that. obviously: magic has NO idea what he's doing. but if he cautioned against westbrook, he was indeed correct once as is the broken clock.

the larger point is that the organization is a mess. facts.

 

I believe there were multiple sources in the article and one of them said that about Magic.

 

The involvement from Rambis as we've heard all year and as listed out in that article is maddening. I'll say this again for those in the cheap seats, who the f*** is Kurt Rambis?!?

He has been an absolute failure at every basketball related gig he's fallen into after retiring as a player. I guess he was good at carrying Phil's chair around for him. He has no business being employed by an amateur basketball organization, much less on one of the biggest teams in the sport (although I think we're currently being operated like a pop up team in a 3rd world country).

He has no business giving Vogel any directives, especially in front of the players, his resumé is embarrassing. Vogel should've gone Will Smith on him.