2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

I would do it, give up an additional 1st and whatever 2nds they want. I'm front row on the Turner train. He's my personal #1 target this summer.

 

Hell yes. I’d add 27 and 29 picks for Turner and Heild while getting rid of Russ

 

You should read what Pacer fans say about Turner. He's a talented player but I would not attack 1st round picks to get him

 

It's all about fit and role. Paired with AD, that's the best two way C/PF duo in the NBA and I don't think it's close. The most viable path to success post Bron is with that prime duo in the middle.

 

I would be careful about this guy

 

Myles Turner is as injury probe as AD is. Fit wise they are perfect pairing but you can’t have them missing so much time.

Plus if he is on the trade market, I think Indy can get a better package than Westbrook… Toronto and Dallas needs starting caliber center

 

yeah, turner would be a great add but his health is worrisome. last thing this team needs is another AD

but if it means getting rid of russ i'm all for it

 

Why would Indiana trade 2 good assets they have for 1 pick of a team with Lebron and AD?

 

Sounds a bit fantasy pipe. Indiana is going to essentially trade Hield who is providing approx 19/5/5 while sharpshooting 3s and who they just traded for, and Turner for Westbrook? They value Hield and Turner and will want great draft compensation in return for a deal. Something we don't have, not even this summer. While the money works nicely as an expiring it would boil down to them (first of all, wanting Russ) getting reassurance Russ will resign cheap, like 10 mil MLE cheap, next year for a few years to entertain fans while they rebuild and keep them interesting. And we all know how delusional Russell is about his talents. And this assumes Indy puts any value on Westbrook as a player. That is the only chance as I see it.

 

Even with Turner’s recent injury history, I would do it. However, I’m with Alcindor on this one. I think it could have been an option if Westbrick had any semblance of a good season.

 

I could imagine Pacer fans being down on him. His foot issues are a major red flag. But at the same time, this is the only reason why Indy would even entertain such a trade. If the Lakers are okay with a slower lineup that has Lebron at the 3, AD at the 4, and Turner at the 5 then this trade would make sense. I mean, we dump Westbrooks contract and we add Hield. The only thing is it would sting to trade both picks if Turner turns out to be badly damaged goods. Turner's expiring deal is in line with the Lakers 2023 cap space plan. Hield isnt, but it opens up enough space for perhaps one max player? I think WB, and the two picks for Hield/Brogdon is more likely to happen though. Unless the Lakers feel that they will get a major two max players teaming up type of free agent haul?

 

^ I think in a sense, if we execute such a trade, any production by Turner during the 2022-2023 season would be icing on the cake. I mean, theoretically I would even consider trading Westbrook and one pick, or even the two picks for Hield + useless expiring salary filler.

 

Why would Indiana do that?

 

Is Donovan better than Karl Malone and John Stockton? It's ridiculous that everyone figures all star-quality players must pursue a large market. Eventually, maybe, but he's only 25 and on his 5th season and his team is damn good. Where is he gonna go that's better? His team has gone .613 in the west over the past 2 seasons without him and .667 with him. They aren't exactly showing desperation without him so it's not like he has massive leverage on the team or needs it. Despite what fans of the NBA think, SLC is a beautiful town if you like winter especially, killer skiing.

 

I get what you are saying, and it is unlikely that they would do that, but there are a several reasons why the Pacers would consider this:

1. Brogdon could be viewed as borderline negative value when you consider the 68 million being owed to him in the three seasons following this season, his injury history, and the fact that he is now their back up PG. Why would they want to pay all that money to an injury prone, back up PG?

2. Although Hield has improved dramatically, the Pacers may still not view him as part of their future. Pacers may be looking at this as an opportunity to "sell high". Duarte might be the person that they view as the shooting guard of the future for them, so that leaves Hield as a 6th man that is owed 39.1 million dollars in the two seasons after this one.

3. When you consider that they are swapping two long term, arguably negative value contracts for an expiring contract and a solid draft pick haul, the Pacers would take this into consideration.

 

nba players don't like slc, and stockton and malone were not at all typical nba players in terms of lifestyle.

where can he go? anywhere. he's a major talent, and where he plays will win.

you're right that his contractual status makes forced trades harder. utah sort of has him hostage for two years or so. though utah's been shrewd in the past (they moved dwill for a good haul just before he dropped off) and might be wise to strike when no one (including mitchell) is expecting it.

anyway, one reason i don't want to just dump picks to move westbrook is that you want the war chest full in a couple years when these young stars start gaining power over their destinations. luka, mitchell, towns, booker. you want to be able to get in on that. missing the playoffs next year is worth it, imo. and i think that's what the FO signaled by not moving at the deadline.

 

Oh we took ourselves out of the war-chest-full-of-picks game for ages to come unless we trade AD or LBJ or both for a huge windfall of picks. We aren't doing major moves with all our 2nd rounders over the next 5 years. You're right NBA players don't like SLC but they're wrong, it's beautiful but my bias stems from skiing there for over 20 years and the issues of race probably do exist there. Considering I saw like 1 black person ever at a ski resort there, I'd say so.

The picks we have available are not going to sweeten the turd that is a Westbrook deal enough for anyone. So don't worry, they're safe. Unless Rob squanders them in a deal for Wall.