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  1. FrontOfJersey22

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    Ahhhh, thanks
     
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    The thing to be surprised about is why Pelinka couldn't close him. A tweener plays the 3-4, exactly where we have a gaping hole in our roster. I mean we don't have anyone that size who can effectively play small forward and handle all the big 3s out there. He would have received playtime here, more than the 20 per he gets in GSW. An extra-large 3 and D guy playing for the vet min, perfect, Rob blew that one, he was concentrating on signing old Lakers and shooting/combo guards.
     
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    better coach, better system in gsw?
     
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    Yeah, oh well. I’ve already mentally flushed this season and have very little expectations for the next one unless Rob can pull of multiple miracles this summer.
     
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    he's an injury risk. and we HATE that.

    seriously, though, i think we pursued him and lost. just like mills. can't fault FO for those. i don't think there's evidence we prioritized, say, bazemore, over otto.

    otto made the right choice, as did mills. and honestly, nunn was a great save that just didn't pan out.
     
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    Where's the buyout guys? Games are back tonight. Figured this would be settled while everyone had a week off instead of waiting until the March 1 deadline. I don't think there will be a whole lot out there, in large part to the play in tourney, but there's got to be more to it than just Dragic.

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    i just don't think there's a lot of guys/teams that interested this year. we would have been the big buyout beneficiary had we not sucked, but we do. nets already got what's likely the biggest fish, and several buyout candidates moved at the deadline.

    i also wonder with the paucity of cap space and big name FAs if both teams and FAs are prioritizing bird rights right now.
     
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    Hornets trending downwards with the most crucial part of the year coming up and will most likely finish out of the play-in tourney. I wonder if Mitch would be down to do some salary dump for expiring's and swap Rozier/Hayward for Russ' expiring +THT +2nd rounder this summer. After summer 2022, Hayward owed $60 mil for 2 more years and Rozier is owed $96 over the next 4 years after but 4th year is a team option.

     
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    I don’t think we want our money tied up in those two that really don’t move the needle.
     
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    Of course I don't think they will help us a championship but those are the pieces we can collect for "rebuild/passage way years" and if we manage them well enough we can turn them to picks which can get us a star.
     
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    Could work. I just think that Rob is hoping to make a big splash a year from this summer based on how he’s lined up the contracts.
     
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    Very true LBJ/Russ do come off the books in 2023. But it looks like no great FA's are available that summer and there aren't any disgruntled stars at the moment. Neither we have the pieces to trade for any
     
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    A LOT can change from now until next summer in regards to disgruntled players, player movement, and what our roster will look like.
     
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    I get that but when we were planning on getting AD/Lebron it was more than 1.5 years of planning that went into acquiring that. Until then we didn't know what was going to happen so we collected assets/picks. We can do that again in the meantime
     
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    I can’t argue to much with this plan. I’m just hoping the substitutes will be a little more valuable than Hayward and Rozier.
     
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    everybody's seen russ play. if we can move him it will be to take on long-term salary on totally undesirable players. we're better off just eating his deal at this point.
     
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    This is the most likely outcome.
     
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    I don’t know about that, I think we may be underrating the value of such a massive expiring contract.

    If Rubio’s expiring contract could get Caris LaVert, I think we can get some actual value out of Westbrook’s expiring contract.

    Yes we will have to take on longer term salary, but that doesn’t necessarily mean we could only get back undesirable players on an albatross contract.

    Sometimes teams just need to go in a different direction and it becomes worthwhile for them to trade a good player in exchange for shaving a few years of salary.

    For example, Tobias Harris is probably a better fit for us than Russ. He only has one more year on his contract than Russ. To us, it might make sense to take on that additional year (aligns with AD’s contract) but Philly is probably going to want to dump that salary.

    Of course I don’t see Philly wanting Russ, so it would likely have to be a three team trade, but I’m moreso just using this as an example than suggesting Harris should be our main target.
     
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    This is my hope.
     
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    yes, expirings seemed suddenly more valuable this year again. but that was at the deadline, so we still have to walk into next season with russ on the roster to hope for that kind of change. otherwise, you're looking at some version of the porzingis trade: highly paid, underperforming players with years left after next.

    the other question becomes whether we might rather have the space in 2023 FA, too. if beal's going to be available, i may want to let lebron and russ expire and try to recruit beal to play with AD (and maybe a discounted lebron in that case). also, though it's doubtful--jokic is a FA that year, too. maybe porter and murray stay fragile and jokic decides playing AD and (again a discounted) lebron.

    point is, i'm not sure we should be ready to blow all the space until we know some more about who might be available.
     
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