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  1. Pioneer10

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    If Nunn is never coming back you could significantly improve this team by signing Harris, Lopez, and either Dragic/Joseph. Joseph has been having a reasonable season for a taking team.

    One dream would be Dragic playing like he did 2 seasons ago: jesus that would take this team to another level but I doubt he can do that anymore
     
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    He can't, unfortunately. He'll be 36 relatively soon.
     
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    With Dragic, it would be a interesting angle if Pelinka convinced him he would start at point guard and Westbrook comes off the bench for the rest of the season.

    Maybe that’ll be some Phil Jackson level mind trick to motivate Westbrook to play angry with the second unit to prove everyone wrong, and it works because Westbrook can then play his style of ball with the bench. The result being we go on this amazing run going into the playoffs…… and we just solved our internal issues so we click at the right time and win the championship.

    Remember when the Lakers were like 0-8 going into the bubble tournament and suddenly it just clicked and they rolled through everyone? It would be like that.


    ….. Or I’m just looking for any way there’s hope lol
     
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    After today, a little hope is welcome around here.
     
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    It wasn't just a comment. It was Joel and Doc flat out blaming him publicly. That's the two leaders of the team.
    Then how the organization never got his back on the media with all the backlash, possibly even contributing to that in the backstage like things are nowadays.

    Both parts really played it bad.
    It was a great trade by both teams, they both win. Specially because Harden opted-in for next season so not giving him an extension is a win too by Philly. And they kept Maxey and specially Thybulle who is key in a contender.
    The Nets are just the big favourites. Ben is a perfect fit for them and they are scary if all playing. It may not work because of those 3 personalities, but if it does...


    On our side, I'm just glad we didn't made any panic move. Either we moved Russ or there was no point to make lateral moves. Was confident on the Knicks goddamn.
    I hope during the break the team has a big conversation and figures out how can we be competitive. Russ needs to cave in and accept his role. If he doesn't do that, I would bench him. He's flat out hurting the team and still thinks it's others' fault. We will never get better if he does that.
    Put him in a room with all the stats and footage of bad plays by him, offensively and defensively. Have a honest conversation with him with Lebron, AD, Vogel and Pelinka in the room. You may add someone he respects there, maybe Handy or something. Tell him we can only win with him. Massage his ego but show him everything he should do better.
    I would try that
     
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    Imagine what we could have done if we had no Westbrook, still had KCP, a resigned Caruso, Kuzma and Montrell. Roughly 45 million in tradable assets. Maybe get both Myles Turner and Jerami Grant.
     
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    thompson and hernangomez, too.

    yeah, again, the flexibility of not having three mammoth contracts.
     
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    Abeer I’m curious to the details of your general dislike towards Morey?
     
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    i think he's an overrated manager (his record as a gm doesn't warrant all the talk) and strategist whose main skill is self-promotion. and he's *excellent* at that.

    i also think he doesn't treat people with respect. just seems like a real slimeball.

    the idolatry from the press (bought with access, largely) and his weird cult following among fans (mostly nerds who sort of don't like basketball) puts him on the front burner for me.

    think about it: what gm has ever garnered this much attention? particularly one who hasn't really distinguished himself from his peers in terms of results?
     
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    Sam Hinkie :D

    Morey did get awfully close with Harden and CP3 in back to back years. I’m not sure how I feel about the difference between being respected or ridiculed comes down to a single game.
     
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    i mean, exactly.

    ok, say he wins. is his resume now better than rc buford? donnie nelson? tons of other managers who have built long-term winners and won titles?

    why when they made trades was the headline "SA acquires player X" and not "RC gets his man AGAIN!"?

    and morey burned houston to the ground on his way out and then tried to pull harden from the wreckage to bolster him for the next job, which he had already lined up.

    i find him wholly unimpressive. and the social forces that made him and harden respective heroes to different groups are sort of part of the unraveling of society.
     
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    He did made bold moves. I think the Capela trade put him on the spotlight, it was groundbreaking and very disruptive. And eventually worked at some capacity.

    He also did some bold moves with the Rockets, getting Harden, Paul, Westbrook...when he was there, he made 77 trades in 14 years, only the Sixers made more.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sp...-philadelphia-76ers/kekfhq5ecfwl18c3w669bxd3x

    So he is not your ordinary GM and this stuff gets talked about. Like Ainge was a hot topic for the exact opposite.
    But I get your point. And in the end he didn't won nothing. But he had some relative success I must say.
    Pelinka seems to follow the same line of thinking in terms of market approach, btw



    P.S: btw, DFS signed an extension so I won our past discussion. You owe me a dinner
     
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    you mean the one where they played without any bigs and got murdered by us in the playoffs? this was my point, in a way: just disrupting stuff doesn't mean you're a genius.

    he's basically made a career on okc's bad decision to pay ibaka and not harden (and the league deciding harden needed to break all ft records for half a decade).

    the paul deal was orchestrated by paul. and then he moved paul for westbrook, which was absolutely awful, right?

    right. he had no respect for continuity and treated anyone who wasn't harden as completely replaceable. i know we have fans on this forum who believe this, but i don't, and it's bitten a few times, too, like when dragic refused to go back there.


    opposite what? he actually made trades that led to winning a title and was fired? hell, ainge's move with bkn is better than any trade morey ever made! his move to get kg was basically the same thing as morey's to get paul (somebody else did it for him).

    eh, i'm not a title or bust guy, tbh. he built some winners in houston. but my point is that lots of gms have built similar winners, and there aren't breathless paeans written in their honor every six months. the moves they make are attached to their organizations, not them, personally.


    in that he uses back door arrangements and chases stars over all else? honestly, i'm not sure "go get starz" is the brilliant, industry-disrupting flex that everyone thinks it is. and i think both morey's teams and ours have seen that turning the whole roster over every year is generally a bad idea, not a brilliant idea.



    not sure what that means. i said they'd consider trading him in part because they were worried about paying him. i didn't know they'd trade porzingis instead. signing an extension doesn't mean they didn't consider moving him. unless you're just saying you bet against a trade of a single player in a single year, which is...a pretty safe bet.
     
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    Their basketball takes are mediocre but in terms of sports entertainment that trio of Kenny, Ernie, and Charles is easily the best sports show of all time.

    I almost spit out my coffee watching this on my phone and my kids are like WTF dad
     
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    LOL what could go wrong with the chemistry between those two …. and general attitude …. whoever’s relegated to coming off the bench.

    Was he just “fodder” in that trade that they might buy him out? Has he fallen that far?
     
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    Some members of the coaching staff needs to be gone.
     
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