2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by BangBoomPow, Jun 3, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,702
    Likes Received:
    23,756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    SMh
     
  2. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,083
    Likes Received:
    13,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    2-80
     
    LTLakerFan likes this.
  3. svtzr

    svtzr - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2016
    Messages:
    2,668
    Likes Received:
    7,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We agree on a lot my friend, but this is one of those points where we are on opposite sides :D

    Let me rephrase the question to you this way. If improvement doesn't matter, why does Westbrook get criticised for his shot selection? He is an all time rebounder, a historically good playmaker, a one man force in transition, who can also be an elite defender when he locks in. He is worth the max and has won an MVP. So why do people criticism him?

    I feel like disregarding the need for improvement goes against our human nature of always chasing progress.

    Life is rarely so black and white - I don't agree with you that is has to be one way or the other. Simmons is a top 20 player, but that doesn't mean he should be excused from criticism. The criticism directed at him, which should have been done behind closed doors and not to the media - wasn't wrong. And it shouldn't have garnered this type of over reaction from Simmons.

    I'm not cool with any star on a max contract forcing their way out with 2+ years on their contract.

    I have to say I agree with Morey. Embiid & Simmons are a championship core, they just haven't been able to put it together and get the right pieces around them yet. So in this situation you either keep Simmons or you trade him for high value that can keep you at contender status. What is the incentive to do otherwise? To get rid of a painful situation quicker? For what though, McCollum won't push them over the top, so they'll be in the same place they are now without Simmons a second round exit.

    The two magic works you said; "Mccollum and a pick for Simmons is a GENEROUS offer right now." It's only a generous offer because he is tanking his value. I don't see why Morey should reward him and in turn take a step back for his franchise. Just don't pay him if he doesn't play. Either way this will be an issue come the next CBA negotiations.
     
    TIME likes this.
  4. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,396
    Likes Received:
    60,555
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
  5. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,083
    Likes Received:
    13,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    westbrook n all available picks for ben, who says no? lol
     
    CarolinaLakerFan and Panko like this.
  6. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,620
    Likes Received:
    27,945
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    ^
    Morey?
     
    VincePT, Panko and Cookie like this.
  7. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,083
    Likes Received:
    13,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    but Russ is a superstar lol
     
    Panko likes this.
  8. Bryant

    Bryant - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,809
    Likes Received:
    5,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Superstars don't get traded 3 seasons in a row

    :Laugh:
     
    Savory Griddles, Panko and Khmrp like this.
  9. OX1947

    OX1947 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2016
    Messages:
    8,275
    Likes Received:
    17,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Chris Paul has been on 5 teams and he's arguably the best PG of his generation.
     
    abeer3, LTLakerFan and TIME like this.
  10. OX1947

    OX1947 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2016
    Messages:
    8,275
    Likes Received:
    17,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Let's replace a guy who's crazy and can't shoot, for a guy who's even crazier and passes the ball when he's in the air 1 foot from the rim at 6'10.
     
  11. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,083
    Likes Received:
    13,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    ill take the one who can pass n d over westbrick all day
     
  12. OX1947

    OX1947 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2016
    Messages:
    8,275
    Likes Received:
    17,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Didn't Simmons say he can't play right now because his tummy hurt or something?
     
  13. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,003
    Likes Received:
    75,549
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Panko likes this.
  14. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    17,971
    Likes Received:
    69,658
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    Man, I wish we had the cap and assets to go out and get him. One of my favorite young non-stars in the league.

    I think he has IT. He really impressed me in the playoffs and he's off to a great start this season. He's not afraid of the moment. He has confidence and the game to back it up.

    Honestly the Hawks are in a good position to get a superstar if they want to package a few of their young guys and picks.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2021
  15. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,003
    Likes Received:
    75,549
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    yeah, gallinari's a big expiring. add bogdan and reddish, and i start listening if i have a star to move. puts them in the right salary range to take one on, too.

    that said, their payroll is pretty large already.
     
    ElginTheGreat and Cookie like this.
  16. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,702
    Likes Received:
    23,756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    Philly should call ATL
     
  17. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,083
    Likes Received:
    13,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    we have a superstar
    :RW Barfbag:
     
  18. fabfourlakers

    fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,572
    Likes Received:
    8,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    If Philly can extract Hunter, Reddish and Bogdan - I pack Simmons bags for him if I'm the Sixers.
     
  19. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,003
    Likes Received:
    75,549
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    guessing they can't. hunter's looking like one of the league's top defenders right now.

    i'd be curious to see simmons with a pg who can really shoot it, though. to me, the mccollum trade has made sense the whole time. morey just can't check his ego and get it done. philly could probably get a 1st with him, just not, you know, seven of them.
     
  20. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,799
    Likes Received:
    22,702
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    Morey accepts that offer IF ATL adds 4 first round picks, 8 seconds, and a partridge in a pear tree.
     
    JSM, Barnstable, LTLakerFan and 3 others like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page