2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by BangBoomPow, Jun 3, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    27,572
    Likes Received:
    74,478
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    think my jv backcourt was bigger than that.
     
  2. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,583
    Likes Received:
    27,810
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Quite possible. I mean, there's no way Fred is any taller than 5'11", while PatBev certainly is around 6'1".
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  3. KobeKing4208

    KobeKing4208 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    418
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    I s*** you not I think there was about 3 minutes against the Pelicans the other night where 6'1 Pat Bev was guarding 6'8 Brandon Ingram, 6'3 Russell Westbrook was guarding 6'8 Herbert Jones and 6'1 Dennis Schroeder was guarding 6'9 Trey Murphy...
     
  4. Wino

    Wino - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2017
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    6,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    La Jolla
    Offline
    Something like that. We got destroyed by Ingram.
     
    ElginTheGreat and LTLakerFan like this.
  5. ZenMaster

    ZenMaster - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,980
    Likes Received:
    13,294
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    All while Ham was ... aroused.
     
    LTLakerFan and Helljumper like this.
  6. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    5,024
    Likes Received:
    8,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Ham is awful- just awfully bad with his rotations.
     
  7. Alcindor

    Alcindor - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    2,659
    Likes Received:
    5,955
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Rancho Cucamonga
    Offline
    Looks alright, I would expect Charlotte to want to include Plumlee in any deal given their log jam at center and upcoming youth there. Also there is the question of do they want to salary dump with Rozier because I don't know how likely the resigning of Westbrook will be, likely there will be mutual disinterest.
     
  8. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,052
    Likes Received:
    13,802
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    with shoes on lol
     
  9. Alcindor

    Alcindor - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    2,659
    Likes Received:
    5,955
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Rancho Cucamonga
    Offline
    Hey Russ is 6'3 1/2", he's almost a center in the Ham sandwich.
     
    Toneloc, TIME, Cookie and 2 others like this.
  10. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,743
    Likes Received:
    4,796
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    That's unlikely. Who was the point guard for them?
     
  11. KobeKing4208

    KobeKing4208 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    418
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    McCollum is their point and Alvarado is technically their backup (who was blowing past everyone) but I dont think either of them was in the game at this particular juncture but they had Jones/Murphy/Ingram handling the ball.

    Even if I am mistaken, I saw those guarding matchups at particular points of the game and PatBev (with 6'8 Rui Hachimura sitting the entire quarter) was on Brandon for most of the 4th quarter...

    The bottom line is we either need to get bigger or Ham needs to break away from having 2/3 of our tiny guards in there at the same time. Hopefully Reaves return will help him move away from that and after Thursday one or both of RW/Pat Bev will be no longer here
     
  12. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,743
    Likes Received:
    4,796
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Exactly.
    They had a 8 man rotation, so if CJ and Alvarado were out then two of JV, Nance and Naji were in. And JV missed the forth so I don't see it happening. You may have been mislead

    What I did see was a height disadvantage that we could have switched if we played Rui instead of Troy down the stretch. That lost us the game imo


    It's unforgiven that you have LeBron and AD on the floor against one big that is Nance, coupled with two skinny forwards on Ingram and Trey and you don't murder them on the inside. Terrible coaching
     
    TIME, abeer3 and KobeKing4208 like this.
  13. KobeKing4208

    KobeKing4208 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2022
    Messages:
    254
    Likes Received:
    418
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    Ya, I dont get the sense he (Ham) knows very much of what is going on. I am ok with Brown (6'6) being in the game but it needs to be at the expense of one of the midget guards not for Hachimura. And yes it did puzzle me why we didn't force the ball inside more, but again our two stars were gassed because he didn't get them out at separate times in the 3rd quarter (both came out late together and ended up playing whole 4th quarter).

    It is why we really don't know what we have as a team. AD and LeBron have played A TOTAL of 18 games together this season. They have played with Rui only a handful of times, same with Reaves- and none of the four have played a game together yet.

    It doesn't take a genius, as of right now; to realize these are the four you give your minutes to when you are 100% healthy. Schroder has been the most consistent among your guards and he is the quickest afoot, so he is your #5.

    Bryant and Gabriel, for different reasons (Thomas to spread floor, post when AD is out and Wenyen to give you that spark); are your two backups inside but the Lakers can ill afford to have 2 of (or dare I say all 3 of) the three midgets (PatBev, Dennis and Westbrook) in there at the same time. It is even worse that opposing defenses don't respect their outside shot (especially RW's).

    Westbrick: 41.4%- including 28.6% from distance
    Beverley: 39.9%- including 34.2% from distance
    Schroder: 41.1%- including 35.5% from distance

    Bev has actually gotten better as season has worn on, but man that is awful collectively...all three of them are shooting about 2 percentage points BELOW their career norms

    Ham seems addicted to doing this though...

    He used Brown (a little better at 6'6 and 43/35%) like you said exclusively in the fourth, but that was with Schroder AND PatBev in there (aside from a minute from Westbrook) while Hachimura nested on the pine.

    Dude seems clueless at times
     
    Punk-101, LTLakerFan and TIME like this.
  14. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    17,574
    Likes Received:
    68,255
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Latest from MacMahon on the Jazz (current twitter aggregation of this isn't exactly accurate).

    *The Russ side of this is in the Russ thread as well

    Who's gettable
    They're not going to trade just to trade and will look for young players and/or picks
    The Laker package that's getting aggregated as THE offer, but he says "including." Even then, that's far off from Shams report yesterday
    They're also talking to the Knicks on a Beasley + Vanderbilt deal
    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35601501/ahead-trade-deadline-focused-jazz-remind-our-job-listen
     
  15. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    27,572
    Likes Received:
    74,478
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    if rosas once again trades for beasley/vanderbilt, conley/olynyk/alexander-walker works for russ. saves us 8 million this year, gives us a legit pg to replace russ's production, a very playable big in olynyk (plus-defender, 40% from three this year, 37% career), and an interesting reclamation project in NAW, who's been a solid defender the past couple of years and is shooting 40% from three in limited action this year.

    again, depending on what the draft capital particulars are...you could do worse.
     
    Toneloc and TIME like this.
  16. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,583
    Likes Received:
    27,810
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    That all sounds interesting and it seems we are really trying to add depth right now. I won’t complain about that at all.
     
    Toneloc and TIME like this.
  17. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,984
    Likes Received:
    59,901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Ham would start Schroder and Conley together. 4th quarter he adds Beverly for his fetish threesome.

    :LLLLLebronlaughing:
     
    Cookie, JSM, Toneloc and 3 others like this.
  18. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,782
    Likes Received:
    22,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    I would give up one of the FRPs, top 5 protected for that deal.
     
  19. Kenzo

    Kenzo - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    7,574
    Likes Received:
    15,900
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Poland
    Offline
    That's not a laughing matter man, he would absolutely do it.
     
    JSM, karacha and LTLakerFan like this.
  20. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,984
    Likes Received:
    59,901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    I know. It’s like laughing with “3” broken ribs.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page