2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

Atl-Mo Harkless, Holiday, future 1st from Sac
Sac-Huerter

Utah-Saben Lee, Kelly Olynx, Cash
Det-Bogdonvic

Rob is leaking lies to the media to justify his crappy offseason IMO because he thought he was so smart trading THT for Beverly.....both or maybe 1 st n future 2nds couldve managed to get BOTH huerter n bog

 

harkless was expiring, holiday low cost. THT's contract wasn't as easy to move.

we offered better than that for bodanovic, imo.

oh god more "the FO is lying to the fans/media" stuff.

and honestly, bevs has been better than THT this year and his contract expires, so i guess it was smart?

we had only russ, THT, and the future firsts to trade this summer. everyone wanted a first just to take russ, regardless of the return. that's a non-starter for me.

is it possible that THT/unprotected 1st gets huerter? maybe. would that have made a world of difference for us? i don't think so.

 

I do actually believe the theory that during the summer, Rob wanted to preserve cap space for 2023 so he didn’t want to take on anything that wasn’t expiring unless it was Kyrie. That’s why we didn’t do a package deal with Utah or Indiana.

The flaw to that plan is that it means he essentially punted on this season before it even began, and that’s why we are fighting for the 10th season right now.

 

Instead of fighting for....the 6th spot? That definitely justifies losing the ability to make the playoffs from 2025 to 2030

 

i don't think smoothoperator was suggesting that it was a great idea to empty the chamber over the summer, but it is hard to keep up with how many low-impact players we should have traded both firsts for.

 

i dont believe any thing out of Robs mouth...he is leaking crap to justify non trades just like Ainge leaks "we could've drafted so and so" during bos bos tenure...you can keep buying what rob selling I wont, its gona comical when russ, bev maybe even nunn walk for nothing at the end of the season

 

not sure it's gona comical, nor do i know how that's indicative of anything.

teams want to screw us. we're saying no. this is great, actually. thank god the fans aren't running the team.

 

Well, he’s completely lost them then.

 

so you really believe Ainge hated la enough to hold true to his 2 1st request n did the det trade for far much less?

 

You can never underestimate the 80's C-Bags hatred of Purple and Gold. These guys still meet annually just to talk trash about the Lakers (for reals). Lakers are still Buss family-owned, there has been no cleansing or renewal for past hostilities. If AInge ever did anything that remotely resembled giving us a fair deal he would immediately receive calls from Kevin McHale, Bird etc

 

i think he initially overestimated bog's value (and tried to play our desperation into a gobert and/or use it to set the bog market), then attempted to save face and traded him out of conference. i do think the anti-laker bias is real, too. some teams have basically come out and said it.

btw, if weaver ends up getting a 1st for bogdanovic by the simple act of extending him, everyone should make fun of ainge forever. but they won't. if it were rob, we'd NEVER hear the end of it. from our own fans!

 

Serge Ibaka is available
The Milwaukee Bucks and center-forward Serge Ibaka have mutually agreed to find the 14-year NBA veteran a new home via trade as he remains away from the team, league sources told The Athletic on Friday.

Ibaka, who last played on Jan. 1 in a loss to the Washington Wizards, has been away from the team for nearly the last two weeks for what has been termed “personal reasons.” Sources said the Bucks and Ibaka decided together after multiple conversations among the parties that it was best for the two sides to find a resolution elsewhere.

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Ibaka, 33, is a 2019 NBA champion with the Toronto Raptors, three-time All-Defensive member and a well-respected veteran while playing for Oklahoma City, Orlando, Toronto, the Clippers and now Milwaukee. He was traded to the Bucks at the NBA trade deadline last season, and re-signed on a one-year, $2.9 million veteran’s minimum deal last summer.

The Bucks have been engaged with the Phoenix Suns for months regarding a deal for forward Jae Crowder, and those conversations are continuing ahead of the Feb. 9 trade deadline, sources said.

(Photo: Jeff Hanisch / USA Today)

 

Jones + one second round pick is my offer. They'll get better than that unless they're letting him pick before a buyout is on the table.

 

I don't expect some kind of bidding war for him, but he can play 4/5, block shots and hit the 3. I'd give up Jones for him ASAP

 

jones and a late/protected 2nd. good chance he just hits the buyout market, and i'm not sure he's playable anyway. the 2nd is to get off jones's contract.

 

Well here are the trade possibilities to watch.. long read..

With the NBA trade deadline around the corner, The Athletic’s Sam Vecenie (draft), Seth Partnow (analytics) and Danny Leroux (salary cap) put their heads together to identify the players who might move at the Feb. 9 deadline who could most impact the remainder of this season, as well as position teams for the future.

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The order listed below is based on a combination of factors: the player’s impact should he be traded, our evaluation of the likelihood of a trade occurring, the “asset value” of the player on his current contract and the level of compensation likely demanded by the player’s current team as part of the swap.

NBA Trade Deadline Big Board
RANK PLAYER POSITION TEAM
1
Myles Turner
Center
Pacers
2
John Collins
Forward/Center
Hawks
3
Bojan Bogdanovic
Forward
Pistons
4
Kyle Kuzma
Forward
Wizards
5
Immanuel Quickley
Guard
Knicks
6
Jakob Poeltl
Center
Spurs
7
Gary Trent Jr.
Guard
Raptors
8
Jordan Clarkson
Guard
Jazz
9
Nikola Vucevic
Center
Bulls
10
P.J. Washington
Forward
Hornets
11
Caris LeVert
Wing
Cavaliers
12
Buddy Hield
Wing
Pacers
13
Kelly Olynyk
Center
Jazz
14
Malik Beasley
Guard
Jazz
15
Saddiq Bey
Forward
Pistons
16
Naz Reid
Forward/Center
Timberwolves
17
Jae Crowder
Forward
Suns
18
Mike Conley
Guard
Jazz
19
Alec Burks
Wing
Pistons
20
Kelly Oubre Jr.
Forward
Hornets
21
Eric Gordon
Wing
Rockets
22
Jalen McDaniels
Forward
Hornets
23
Rui Hachimura
Forward
Wizards
24
Grayson Allen
Guard
Bucks
25
Mason Plumlee
Center
Hornets
Myles Turner
The unusual specifics of Turner’s situation make him an even more fascinating topic of discussion, as the pending unrestricted free agent and the Indiana Pacers can negotiate a lucrative renegotiation-and-extension that would give Turner more money right now then build off that on a multi-season contract. If the two sides cannot hammer out an agreement, it is a clear sign the 26-year-old intends to head elsewhere this summer and the Pacers should move on. A proven rim protector who has also shot 35 percent from 3 in his career, Turner makes sense on virtually every team that could use center help. — Leroux

John Collins
Seemingly perpetually on the block, the 25-year-old Collins should have a distinct place in the market because he is under contract for another two years with a player option for 2025-26, so if a team is interested in him at roughly $26 million per season, they have a talented power forward on a set contract. While Collins has not demonstrated the ability to anchor defenses at center, he is a dynamic pick-and-roll partner who can unlock offense because of his ability to roll hard and also hit 3s on a pick-and-pop. It would not be surprising to see a young team like the Detroit Pistons or Houston Rockets identify him as an available upgrade who meshes with their current core, but how much will Landry Fields and the Atlanta Hawks demand in return? — Leroux

Bojan Bogdanović
Bogdanović became a Piston in September and agreed to an extension in October before putting together a very successful start to his age-33 season, posting career highs in both true shooting and usage, an unusual double for a player who has been in the league for years. Bogdanović’s $20 million salary for next year with a light partial guarantee for 2024-25 looks team-friendly, so that plus his ability to space the floor makes him a good fit for a variety of trade partners. All of Detroit’s possible paths make sense, so the variable will be what teams are actually offering; keeping Bogdanović around is a justifiable decision. — Leroux

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Kyle Kuzma
Kuzma is having a career year, averaging 21 points, seven rebounds and four assists per game, and has taken a legitimate leap since he proved he could be part of a defense-first NBA champion with the Los Angeles Lakers in the bubble. However, he also is on an expiring contract that isn’t going to be extendable because the salary is too low right now. If a team is going to give up assets to acquire Kuzma, it needs to do so knowing the 27-year-old will hit unrestricted free agency this summer. A first-round pick and a prospect seems like the right price tag here, but Washington tends to march to the beat of its own drum, so who knows if the Washington Wizards will even consider moving Kuzma. — Vecenie

Immanuel Quickley
Making Quickley even available to be discussed is intriguing. It’s likely borne out of the fact that he is extension eligible this offseason on a team that is all about maintaining flexibility moving forward as it continues to hunt for a legitimate superstar. Having said that, over the last month, Quickley has possibly made himself indispensable to the New York Knicks. Over his last 13 games, Quickley has averaged 18 points, four rebounds and four assists while shooting 46 percent from the field and 37 percent from 3. He’s also drastically improved this season as a point-of-attack defender. If the Knicks are willing to give him away for a mid-first-round pick, plenty of teams should bite. — Vecenie

Jakob Poeltl
There appears to be less urgency for the San Antonio Spurs to trade the 27-year-old Austrian center because both sides appear open to a new contract this summer. Based on current reporting, that has led to a high asking price of multiple first-round picks, though the Spurs could easily reduce that over the next few weeks. The bigger question is where Poeltl fits in the center hierarchy as he has been a consistently strong rim protector before this season but has been below that standard this season. If he gets back to that defensive foundation and maintains the offensive growth we have seen, Poeltl will be a valuable center either in San Antonio or elsewhere. — Leroux

Gary Trent Jr.
Trent Jr., 24, can be an unrestricted free agent this summer after the Toronto Raptors gave him a three-year, $52 million deal two years ago with a player option on Year 3. And it’s a pretty simple equation for Trent Jr. He’s an extremely effective third or fourth option for an offense, but he’s not going to really contribute as a rebounder or passer. Defensively, he’s good in matchups where he can use his strength to body up offensive players but a bit worse when faced with any sort of quickness. Getting him for a playoff run while also getting his Bird rights is worth at least a first-round pick plus something else. — Vecenie

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Jordan Clarkson
One of the season’s best surprises has been Clarkson starting regularly for the first time since 2016 and posting arguably the best season of his career. He also picked a great time to do so because of a player option that could make him an unrestricted free agent in 2023 if he so chooses. That option also could clarify matters when it comes to the Utah Jazz because Clarkson is extension eligible but may be hoping for more than the $17 million to $18 million per season they can offer at the moment, leaving Danny Ainge with the choice of whether to retain Clarkson for the rest of this season with or without an extension or move him at the deadline. Bird rights on Clarkson could be very useful for a franchise not looking at cap space this July. — Leroux

Nikola Vučević
The two-time All-Star would not shift the deadline as much as his higher-profile teammates, but Vucević’s pending unrestricted free agency also makes for a very different negotiation. While the 32-year-old’s limited defensive prowess is a problem for teams with lofty aspirations, centers who can space the floor and score efficiently can really pump up a team’s offensive potency, which some franchises are always looking for. — Leroux

P.J. Washington
Washington and the Charlotte Hornets did not come to an extension agreement back in October, which means the forward will hit the restricted free agency market this summer. Washington is having a career year scoring-wise, but his efficiency in the lane has taken a nosedive as the Hornets generally struggle to space the floor (also due to Washington only getting to play about 35 percent of his minutes this season with LaMelo Ball). Undoubtedly though, contenders would still have a lot of interest in taking a real swing on a player many around the league see as a tailor-made role player on contending teams. The Hornets should probably just keep him, but if the team believes it’s going to have to rebuild for three years or so in order to get back to relevance, this might be the best time to cash in on Washington. — Vecenie


P.J. Washington (Troy Taormina / USA Today)
Caris LeVert
Koby Altman acquired LeVert less than a year ago, but the Donovan Mitchell trade fundamentally changed LeVert’s place with the franchise. LeVert’s $18.8 million salary makes him a trade piece who can bring back a superior solution to the Cleveland Cavaliers’ glaring hole at small forward. Beyond the extremely limited supply of small forwards, much less available ones, Altman also faces the challenge of finding a team that values LeVert’s Bird rights for when he hits unrestricted free agency this summer. — Leroux

Buddy Hield
Shooting is still a premium skill, and few have the combination of frequency and success that Hield does. The 30-year-old has been near or over 40 percent from 3 in all but one of his seven NBA seasons on remarkably high attempt rates. Hield’s descending contract will pay him under $20 million in 2023-24, so even with his limited defensive ability, he should definitely draw interest around the league, though Kevin Pritchard could appreciate how Hield’s spacing makes life easier on his young core and retain his services. — Leroux

Kelly Olynyk
Olynyk has never played better than he has this season. As a starter for the Jazz, he’s posted 50/40/83 shooting splits while averaging 12 points per game next to Lauri Markkanen. Olynyk is a smart, instinctive player who always seems to make the right read to put his more skilled teammates in better positions. His contract will pay him $12.8 million this season and is non-guaranteed for $12.1 million next year. Olynyk would be a sharp addition for a contender looking for some frontcourt playmaking, passing and floor spacing. For instance, a reunion with the Miami Heat stands out as an enticing option. — Vecenie

Malik Beasley
Another Jazzman who will generate interest if team president Danny Ainge puts him on the block, Beasley is a career 38 percent 3-point shooter on heavy volume, and he possesses a reasonable $16.5 million team option for next season. While Beasley’s defense has not lived up to the promise he showed at Florida State, capable shooters with positional size are great to have and often hard to find. Beasley could easily be a part of the Jazz moving forward, but it makes sense for them to listen to offers. — Leroux

Saddiq Bey
Why would a developing team trade a 6-7 wing who has played reasonably well over his three-year NBA tenure? One reason: that third year is a marker for onetime first-round picks. They’re eligible for contract extensions that summer, so front offices are proactively evaluating if they are willing to sign that player to his next contract. If not, the trade deadline offers a window to ship him elsewhere for a better return. Bey’s best season was his rookie year (38 percent on 3s as a frequent starter), though the Pistons have significantly more knowledge of Bey’s development and work ethic than we can see in games. Expect to see other teams show interest in Bey if he hits the block, because wings that even offer the possibility of plus shooting and defending are incredibly valuable. — Leroux

Naz Reid
The fourth-year big might be this trade deadline’s version of Vizzini’s Riddle (no, not Vecenie’s). With Karl-Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert hurt, the Minnesota Timberwolves can clearly not afford to trade him. However, with around $270 million committed to Gobert and Towns through the 2025-26 season (and after that, some really expensive years remaining on Towns’ yet-to-kick-in extension), the Timberwolves can clearly not afford to keep Reid. The thing is, were the Wolves in a position to deal, Reid should have value, having emerged as a solid if unspectacular two-way center who can space the floor a little, rebound and protect the rim. Certainly a few contenders — LA Clippers and Brooklyn Nets come immediately to mind — could do with a player of that profile, but with Reid making only $1.9 million and entering unrestricted free agency, getting a decent return could prove challenging. — Partnow

Jae Crowder
Crowder has sat out this season as the Phoenix Suns look to facilitate a trade. It’s surprising one hasn’t come to fruition yet, but Phoenix head of basketball operations James Jones seems to be very particular and patient on what he’s looking for in return. Crowder still seems to be the person most likely to be dealt by the deadline because of those factors, but there are at least some signs saying buyers should beware here. Crowder is 32 years old, and his defensive mobility did take a slight step back last season. Offensively he has become pretty limited to being a catch-and-shoot guy. — Vecenie

Mike Conley
The 35-year old point guard is still a wonderful pick-and-roll operator who has been key for the Jazz offensively. Conley has one more year remaining on his contract; the team holding his rights can either pay $24.4 million to have him on the roster or $14.3 million to waive him, so Jazz president Danny Ainge would presumably seek out a trade partner that wants Conley on its roster for 2023-24. More significant assets could be on the table in a potential Conley trade if the Jazz are willing to take on salary for 2023-24 and possibly beyond – a distinct possibility, as moving Conley would indicate the Jazz are not pushing for wins over the next two seasons. A reunion with Gobert on the Timberwolves makes a lot of sense because it’s hard to see the Wolves to add an offensive player as good as Conley using their modest upcoming cap space or via a sign-and-trade involving free-agent-to-be D’Angelo Russell. Keep an eye on those negotiations. — Leroux

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Alec Burks
After missing the start of the season, the 31 year-old Burks has been stunningly effective for the Pistons, posting a career-high 63 percent true shooting mark. Burks’ offensive potency, combined with a reasonable $10.5 million team option for next season, makes him a logical trade target for a variety of teams – if the Pistons decide not to keep him themselves. A first-round pick may be too much to expect, but Detroit GM Troy Weaver can demand an intriguing young player and/or a strong second-rounder, or incorporate Burks in a larger deal. — Leroux

Kelly Oubre Jr.
Oubre is recovering from a torn ligament in his left hand, but he should be able to return well before the closing kick of the regular season. He’s an eye-of-the-beholder player, in part because his jump shot and defensive execution have both been inconsistent over the years. But the Hornets’ record indicates a motivated seller, and rolling the dice on a 6-7 forward is far from the worst gamble a team trying to win could make. Oubre is on an expiring contract, and early Bird rights should be enough to re-sign him should both sides have interest after this season. — Leroux

Eric Gordon
Were it not for Myles Turner, Gordon would be the runaway leader for continuous time on the proverbial trade block. With the Rockets rebuilding and Gordon in the last guaranteed year of his contract, now would seem to be the time. But having turned 34 in December and bedeviled by injuries for much of the past several years, not to mention having not played in a meaningful game since the 2020 bubble, does the veteran shooting guard have much left to offer a contender? Is he more likely to function as the expiring salary ballast for a team offering future draft assets to Houston to shed longer-term money? Or does the desired market for his services once again not fully materialize, leaving him to play out the string for the youthful Rockets? — Partnow


Eric Gordon (Troy Taormina / USA Today)
Jalen McDaniels
The 6-9 McDaniels has quietly become an interesting role player in Charlotte. He plays hard, aggressively crashes the glass and can defend a couple of positions. He’s also a 35 percent 3-point shooter on nearly 400 career attempts and is adept at timely cuts to the rim. Moreover, he’s an unrestricted free agent this offseason despite turning just 25 at the end of January, which means the Hornets might feel the need to cash in on one of their few positive developmental stories over the last few years. McDaniels is making just $1.7 million this season, putting him in play salary-wise for nearly every team in the NBA. He isn’t playoff-tested yet, but he offers an interesting, lower-cost alternative to some of the veterans available on the market. The Phoenix Suns stand out as an interesting option given their depth woes at the power forward position; they have reached out already, according to The Athletic’s Shams Charania. — Vecenie

Rui Hachimura
Hachimura has shown growth over his four seasons but will be a restricted free agent this summer and thus in line for a raise the Wizards may not be willing to pay. The combination of a reasonable $6.3 million salary this year, restricted rights and a big $18.8 million cap hold to start the summer means he makes the most sense for a team that will be over the cap in the 2023 offseason. The hold will not impinge their cap space, and his eventual salary through an offer sheet or negotiated contract is not so high that it would push most teams into the luxury tax. Any front office that sees Hachimura as a future starter should strike now. — Leroux

Grayson Allen
Allen has done his job this season for the Milwaukee Bucks as a floor spacer who has hit 39 percent from 3 and kept the ball moving around the perimeter. But he’s not quite the highest-volume 3-point shooter in the world for this role. Allen signed an extension in October of 2021 for two years and $20 million, so his contract is the one that puts the Bucks in play for a large swath of players on the market. Combining Allen’s deal with George Hill’s $4 million expiring contract, for example, allows the Buks to acquire up to nearly $16 million in player salary at the deadline. That number rises to $18.6 million if the Bucks decide to include MarJon Beauchamp and his $2.4 million rookie deal. — Vecenie

Mason Plumlee
Plumlee is miscast as a starting center, but overqualified to be a backup. He has defensive limitations, but he’s a smart ball-mover who always makes the right read, plus has good touch around the rim. He’s on an expiring contract for a reasonable $9 million. It’s possible his market cools in case the Hornets buy his contract out after the deadline, but enough teams could use a reliable backup center for 15 to 20 minutes per night to give up something of value before then. — Vecenie

The Ifs
Several franchises are still deciding if they will even consider putting key players on the block, which would indicate a fundamental change in their directions. It makes sense to discuss those situations separately, as many (if not all) of those big names will not be available at all. We’re calling this group “The Ifs.” If these players become available, it would fundamentally change this trade deadline and the overall league landscape.

Trade Big Board: The 'Ifs'
PLAYER POSITION TEAM
DeMar DeRozan
Forward
Bulls
Zach LaVine
Guard
Bulls
O.G. Anunoby
Wing
Raptors
Fred VanVleet
Guard
Raptors
Russell Westbrook
Guard
Lakers
DeMar DeRozan, Zach LaVine
GM Artūras Karnišovas and the Bulls could turn the trade deadline on its head by putting one or both of their biggest stars on the block. DeRozan and LaVine would each be the highest-profile player on the market. Both are under contract beyond this season, so neither would be a rental. Still, the current feeling is that the Bulls will keep their core together, so the potential availability of DeRozan and/or LaVine is more of a curiosity than a probability. (Even if I and others believe they should be selling this deadline.) — Leroux

O.G. Anunoby
If the Raptors decide to make Anunoby available, he would immediately become the most popular player on the market due to his age and skill set. Anunoby is a top wing stopper who should be on one of the All-Defense teams this season. He’s disruptive, strong enough to absorb contact and can switch across the positional spectrum.

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He also is developing into an offensive weapon, averaging 18 points per game on 47 percent from the field and 37 percent from 3, and has become far more comfortable attacking off the dribble and in ball screens. At 25, he still hasn’t hit his ceiling as a player, and teams would have him for two potential playoff runs before he becomes an unrestricted free agent. If the Raptors decide to entertain trades, the price tag should be at least two premium draft picks and a player, or potentially even three premium picks. He fits on every team in the NBA. — Vecenie


Fred VanVleet and O.G. Anunoby defend Darius Garland. (David Richard / USA Today)
Fred VanVleet
VanVleet’s availability depends on the direction the Raptors end up taking. If they decide it’s time to give up the postseason chase and take a bit of a step back, VanVleet is tailor-made to hit the trade market. He’s about to turn 29 and is on a de facto expiring contract — he almost certainly won’t exercise his $22 million player option for next year, since he’ll get more money guaranteed over a longer term on the open market, even as he’s mired in one of the worst shooting slumps of his career.

Speaking of, what’s going on there? It’s not his pull-up shooting: he’s making 33.1 percent of his pull-up 3s this year, not all that different from his 34 percent average the last two years. The catch-and-shoot numbers, however, have cratered. He’s making only 33.8 percent of those after nailing more than 40 percent on such shots over the last two seasons combined. If you believe the tide will turn and VanVleet didn’t suddenly forget how to shoot, he offers teams a great buy-low opportunity. However, there is concern VanVleet has been overworked in the last four years. Despite suffering nagging knee and hip injuries, VanVleet has finished in the top 10 in minutes per game in each of those seasons while playing in an aggressive defensive system. Regardless, VanVleet would be attractive on the trade market for a number of teams looking for a starting guard. — Vecenie

Russell Westbrook
This “if” is less about the player and more about whether his team wants to make a big swing. Westbrook was on the block all summer and was nearly traded before training camp before his off-the-bench mini-resurgence quieted the torrent of rumors. If the Lakers decide to pursue a significant move at the deadline, it likely must involve Westbrook, as the only other players on the roster making over $13 million are cornerstones LeBron James and Anthony Davis. There is a path involving the Lakers including both Patrick Beverley and Kendrick Nunn in a trade, but that package can only bring back a player (or players) making $22.8 million or less, and it would presumably add to the Lakers’ luxury-tax bill.

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Westbrook has embraced his new bench role but is still an awkward fit around the Lakers’ stars. His $47.1 million expiring contract provides a way for the Lakers to add multiple talented players in one move, though it will likely cost them at least one of their two tradeable future first-round picks. Would Lakers GM Rob Pelinka prefer to trade Westbrook for player(s) on long-term contracts or let his deal expire to help create roughly $34 million in cap space this summer? — Leroux

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AD will be back in a couple of games, but yes it would be nice to at least have our main guys available. Everyone in the West seems to be having injury concerns except Memphis, Sacramento and Denver.

 

We should do the Clippers a favor. They are looking for a PG and a big. They need available players and if nothing else, Russ is usually available.

I'll give them Russ and Jones for Covington, Kennard, and Batum.