2022-23 Depth Chart

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by alam1108, Aug 2, 2021.

  1. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,961
    Likes Received:
    5,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Based on the media day, Ham's comments and players' interviews, I imagine Reaves will stand-out. He's everything Ham preaches. (Although he forgot to mention him when naming our best defenders, putting Lonnie in front of him) But I think Reaves will eat Lonnie's minutes.

    Nunn may play too. Our game rotation to start the season may be something like:
    PG: Russ (26) | Schroder (14) | Bev (8)
    SG: Bev (16) | Nunn (14) | Reaves (12) | Schroder (6)
    SF: LeBron (26) | Reaves (14) | Troy Brown (8)
    PF: AD (18) | JTA (18) | LeBron (6) | Swider (6)
    C: Jones (17) | Bryant (17) | AD (14)

    Lonnie loses the spot in the preseason if Nunn is good. Will be next man up when we have someone missing from 1 to 3.
    Swider makes a case in the preseason and Troy he's the only wing so he gets a shot. It's up to them to make it count. Ham's focus on defense-first may make it difficult for Swider. If he bulks, Troy or JTA may get those minutes.
    If Lonnie plays, it can eat from Nunn, Reaves, Troy or Swider.

    There's a lot of competition in this roster and Ham mentioned that. We may not be good on paperz but there's a chance with the right mindset and being a tenacious team to build a good run. If we defend hard, our talent can makes us win games
     
  2. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,429
    Likes Received:
    7,233
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Hard to say..we are basing things off of not seeing them play yet. Folks are sleeping on Nunn, he is going to play if he's healthy. This kid started in Miami after going undrafted. He has some grit to him. 15pts a game, with playoffs and Finals experience? If he's healthy, that guy is ahead of everyone else IMO. I don't get why Dennis gets the start. Dennis and Bev make up a very solid 2nd unit with one of the bigs and two wings. They both can harass the ball in the backcourt, and both are decent facilitators. We are talking about 2nd unit guys they will be going up against.

    The key for Austin is improving his jump shot. I think he can get some opportunities cutting to the basket in this offense too. I just don't look for him to play much lead guard this season. It looks like he has bulked up some, in anticipation of playing more SF this campaign. He has to knock down those open jumpers. The rest of the game is there.
     
  3. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,585
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    With the addition of Matt Ryan we have a full 15 man roster. I was hoping by this time we'd have a set starters and rotation but we don't. You're guess is as good as mine.

    Kendrick Nunn / Russel Westbrook / Dennis Schroder
    Lonnie Walker / Patrick Beverley / Max Christie
    Austin Reaves / Matt Ryan / Troy Brown Jr
    Lebron James / Wenyen Gabriel / Juan Tuscano Anderson
    Anthony Davis / Thomas Bryant / Damien Jones

    Scottie Pippen Jr and Cole Swider on 2-way
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  4. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,415
    Likes Received:
    60,597
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
    I like that when we can legitimately play small ball and not force feed AD too much physicality on defense against bigger tougher 5s. There has to be continued work from staff and our two actual centers in Jones and Bryant so we can f****** use them!!
     
    LaVarBallsDad likes this.
  5. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    You ready to tank?

    Oh, wait! We don't have our pick.
     
  6. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,415
    Likes Received:
    60,597
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Online
  7. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,961
    Likes Received:
    5,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Key takeaways from preseason:

    - Nunn was a big surprise and will play a big role in this team
    - centers fell short of expectations, they need to prove they belong. Gabriel was the best one
    - we will play 3 guards a lot of times
    - Lonnie has some game, will be part of the rotation, no question
    - Pat didn't offer much. I guess he may really (just) be a culture guy and he will stand out in spurts, like big games or wtv where his energy stands out, once basketball wise he kinda falls short of what we need
    - Russ played ok/bad in every different scenario. We can only grow when we get rid of him
    - Ham shown very good things so far, but still needs to prove to me if he's the man to lead us after LeBron

    As of now, this team is borderline fighting for top 6, leaning towards the play-in. There's room to be top 6 even with Russ, which is better than what we had last year
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  8. Wino

    Wino - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2017
    Messages:
    3,172
    Likes Received:
    6,894
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    La Jolla
    Offline
    Hmmm, maybe we need to change the name of this thread to:

    2022-23 Lack of Depth Chart
     
    TIME, Khmrp, sirronstuff and 3 others like this.
  9. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,571
    Likes Received:
    75,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    What are you talking about? We’re 7 deep at the guard spot. :p
     
    TIME, Khmrp, alam1108 and 1 other person like this.
  10. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,084
    Likes Received:
    13,820
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    this may be a worser team than last yr, that bar was quite low to begin with
     
  11. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Bev isn't a starter. He's a 15-20 minute a game guy that needs to come off the bench. As much as we advanced stats liked his shooting, he's been basura from there so far...

    If you want to play AD at the 5 with LBJ at the 4, you need a bigger sized wing that can shoot and rebound, IMO. Maybe you can slot JTA? But the spacing gets more clunky because he isn't a knock down shooter.

    I'd like to see more Reaves replacing Bev minutes, and I like Nunn. Think we need to feature those guys together more as the season goes along.
     
    TIME, ElginTheGreat and abeer3 like this.
  12. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,961
    Likes Received:
    5,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    JTA is the worst shooter of the roster, including bigs.
    He can't play with Russ any minute. He can be serviceable but it messes up our offense because teams just leave him and double team AD or LeBron
    He's the type of player who glues well in a very competent team. It will take time to reach that level if we ever do
     
  13. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Depends. All you want him to do is be league average.

    Mind you, the one season he got time in GS, he shot pretty well from three; he'll get shots that will be open, but we can't have Wiggins or Thompson just shooting over the top of us when we have AD at the 5.
     
    ElginTheGreat likes this.
  14. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,961
    Likes Received:
    5,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Yeah I haven't enjoyed seeing him play so far. His shot is really awful and he doesn't offer anything on offense nor he's super smart. That's why we need to play him in lineups that are more offensive, so we have better spacing and he can exploit holes in the opposition's defense.

    Playing in the Warriors is a unique context, doesn't translate to other teams, clearly not to ours especially
     
  15. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Of course he's offers other things on offense: he can set screens, knows when to slip screens, always in the right position. He is just a product of playing with the second unit that doesn't maximize his abilities.

    We can't have Wiggins or Thompson shooting over the top of us if we go small. So, if we decide to go small, what's the alternative at the 3 position? We starting another guard? We starting Christie?

    Or do we just abandon the idea and throw Gabriel at the 5 and revert LBJ back to his normal position at the 3?
     
    ElginTheGreat and abeer3 like this.
  16. pika1708

    pika1708 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2020
    Messages:
    2,961
    Likes Received:
    5,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Oh yeah, for me we can't play AD/LeBron at 5/4, unless it's in very specific situations like Wiggins at the 5 or something like that
     
  17. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,023
    Likes Received:
    75,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i think we can play lebron at the 4/5 to close halves. last 5 minutes of each half. reaves should be out there with them. and i'd be ok with JTA and nunn (or schroder if he ever plays) as the others.

    to open games, we need AD at the 4 and lebron at the 3, imo. start one of our three centers, whichever one you trust most to play defense.
     
    LaVarBallsDad likes this.
  18. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Don't mind that.
     
  19. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,585
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    It's still so weird how our two center signings were universally praised, Jones even getting early starting nods before training camp, only to still start AD at the 5. Were we so scarred from DJ, Dwight and sometimes Melo at center that anything else looked promising?
     
  20. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,023
    Likes Received:
    75,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    well, one thing we might be learning is that maybe vogel wasn't an idiot, and you just can't succeed in these circumstances.
     
    alam1108 likes this.

Share This Page