Log in or Sign up

2020-21 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by TIME, Feb 11, 2020.

Thread Status:: Not open for further replies.

Page 159 of 309

lakermann44 - Rookie -

Joined:

Jul 4, 2019

Messages:

17

Likes Received:

11

Trophy Points:

3

Offline

said Rob was up to something

lakermann44, Nov 22, 2020

#3161
Helljumper - Lakers All Star -

Joined:

Oct 5, 2014

Messages:

4,933

Likes Received:

14,677

Trophy Points:

113

Occupation:

Student

Location:

Los Angeles

Offline

lakerjones said: ↑

With the McGee to Cleveland trade does that open up the possibility to resign Morris for slightly more than Vet's Min, non birds rights? Would like to get Morris back too if we can.
Click to expand...

I THINK it does, but not 100% sure. Marks is saying that after this move we could sign 3 veteran’s minimums and still be $1.3 million under the hard cap. Well I think $1.3 million is more then the difference between minimum and the 20% raise for Morris. So I THINK now we can give Morris essentially a 2 year/$6 million deal (which is still quite low TBH) and then have room for 2 more minimum contracts under the hard cap.

Helljumper, Nov 22, 2020

#3162

JohnnyComeLately2k6, karacha, alam1108 and 5 others like this.
lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

Joined:

Sep 7, 2014

Messages:

10,678

Likes Received:

31,765

Trophy Points:

113

Location:

La La land

Offline

Helljumper said: ↑

I THINK it does, but not 100% sure. Marks is saying that after this move we could sign 3 veteran’s minimums and still be $1.3 million under the hard cap. Well I think $1.3 million is more then the difference between minimum and the 20% raise for Morris. So I THINK now we can give Morris essentially a 2 year/$6 million deal (which is still quite low TBH) and then have room for 2 more minimum contracts under the hard cap.
Click to expand...

That would be awesome!

lakerjones, Nov 22, 2020

#3163

PurPle n GoLd 1, DeeZee and TIME like this.
OX1947 - Lakers MVP -

Joined:

Jun 3, 2016

Messages:

8,276

Likes Received:

17,604

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

Khmrp said: ↑

MoMo tweeted it, fathorst i think just helped her pile it on
Click to expand...

What's the deal with that guy? Is he still irritated Lebron went to the Lakers? Is he a Cavs fan?

OX1947, Nov 22, 2020

#3164

JohnnyComeLately2k6 likes this.
TIME Administrator Staff Member

Joined:

Sep 6, 2014

Messages:

5,799

Likes Received:

22,702

Trophy Points:

113

Occupation:

Lifelong Lakers fan.

Location:

LaLa Land

Offline

Helljumper said: ↑

I THINK it does, but not 100% sure. Marks is saying that after this move we could sign 3 veteran’s minimums and still be $1.3 million under the hard cap. Well I think $1.3 million is more then the difference between minimum and the 20% raise for Morris. So I THINK now we can give Morris essentially a 2 year/$6 million deal (which is still quite low TBH) and then have room for 2 more minimum contracts under the hard cap.
Click to expand...

TIME, Nov 22, 2020

#3165

JohnnyComeLately2k6, lakerjones, tada and 3 others like this.
JSM - Lakers Legend -

Top Poster Of Month

Joined:

Oct 5, 2014

Messages:

17,981

Likes Received:

69,692

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

Great move. Rob is teaching a master class right now.

Now if we can get a wing who can play D. Maybe a 3rd string C who's 7 foot and can block a little.

Then BPA, after that.

JSM, Nov 22, 2020

#3166

JohnnyComeLately2k6, LTLakerFan, johnnyboy and 2 others like this.
The Rock - Lakers Starter -

Joined:

Dec 29, 2014

Messages:

2,940

Likes Received:

7,444

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

The Rock, Nov 22, 2020

#3167

JohnnyComeLately2k6, Barnstable and lakerjones like this.
karacha Moderator Staff Member

Joined:

Sep 6, 2014

Messages:

8,620

Likes Received:

27,949

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

Rob's BB IQ:

karacha, Nov 22, 2020

#3168

JohnnyComeLately2k6, TIME, LTLakerFan and 10 others like this.
ZenMaster - Lakers All Star -

Joined:

Oct 5, 2014

Messages:

6,023

Likes Received:

13,382

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

Dammit. If only Dwight wasn't an idiot again...

ZenMaster, Nov 22, 2020

#3169

JohnnyComeLately2k6, KobeJeterKaep, alam1108 and 2 others like this.
fabfourlakers - Lakers Starter -

Joined:

Oct 19, 2014

Messages:

3,572

Likes Received:

8,137

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

ZenMaster said: ↑

Dammit. If only Dwight wasn't an idiot again...
Click to expand...

We probably don't get Marc Gasol though if Dwight stayed...perspective.

fabfourlakers, Nov 22, 2020

#3170

JohnnyComeLately2k6, TIME, lakerjones and 2 others like this.
BangBoomPow - Lakers Starter -

Joined:

Jun 26, 2019

Messages:

2,027

Likes Received:

4,647

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

fabfourlakers said: ↑

We probably don't get Marc Gasol though if Dwight stayed...perspective.
Click to expand...

Ehhh, I think Lakers chose Trezz over Howard but Howard was worried Philly was going to sign another center so he panicked and just signed with the Sixers. Lakers needed more time to move Javale and Dwight didn't wait. I think if Dwight had waited, he'd be a Lakers by now.

BangBoomPow, Nov 22, 2020

#3171

JohnnyComeLately2k6, KareemtheGreat33, lakerjones and 4 others like this.
JSM - Lakers Legend -

Top Poster Of Month

Joined:

Oct 5, 2014

Messages:

17,981

Likes Received:

69,692

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

I'd look at: GR3, RHJ, Carroll, Korver for wing options. Try to nab two of them.

Bigs? Thon Maker should be cheap. Fits what I'm looking for there.

JSM, Nov 22, 2020

#3172

JohnnyComeLately2k6, PurPle n GoLd 1 and ElginTheGreat like this.
karacha Moderator Staff Member

Joined:

Sep 6, 2014

Messages:

8,620

Likes Received:

27,949

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

Helljumper is a smart, smart man.

I am all for bringing Kieff in now, he'd provide extra depth from 3 to 5.

karacha, Nov 22, 2020

#3173

JohnnyComeLately2k6, lakerjones, Helljumper and 1 other person like this.
Helljumper - Lakers All Star -

Joined:

Oct 5, 2014

Messages:

4,933

Likes Received:

14,677

Trophy Points:

113

Occupation:

Student

Location:

Los Angeles

Offline

karacha said: ↑

Helljumper is a smart, smart man.

I am all for bringing Kieff in now, he'd provide extra depth from 3 to 5.
Click to expand...

Naw Pelinka is where the brains are at, I'm just trying to wrap my head around what this mad man is doing

This seems to be a better explanation from John Hollinger, which does confirm this gives us the flexibility to bring back Markieff:

Lakers, Cavs, Raptors: So let’s try to explain what happened with the Lakers tonight, and how the Cavaliers and Raptors figured into it.

Hemmed in by the hard cap because they used their full mid-level exception on Montrezl Harrell, as I wrote last night, the Lakers really painted themselves into a corner. All they could do for their last four contracts was sign players for the $1.6 million veteran’s minimum, because any other amount would put them over the hard cap of $138.9 million.

Here’s the problem: The Lakers wanted to sign Marc Gasol to a two-year minimum deal. And as a veteran with at least 10 years of service, Gasol’s contract would count as $2.65 million on a two-year deal. The Lakers’ margins were so tight that it was impossible for them to come up with the extra million.

Well, unless they traded somebody. And in particular, if they traded somebody in a way that not only saved money, but also turned one player into two. By virtue of doing so, they would have one less roster spot to fill and more money to do the filling.

Enter JaVale McGee, who makes $4.2 million this season. The Lakers canvassed the league and found a team in Cleveland that had two fungible, cheap contracts ($1.76 million for both Jordan Bell and Alfonzo McKinnie), and would take on McGee in return for those players and a second-round pick.

Since both players had non-guaranteed deals, there was another technicality. The Lakers will need to guarantee $637,204 of one player’s salary and the entirety of the other, which gives them some in-season flexibility to waive one of these two players and sign a buyout guy. Alternatively, the player they give the small guarantee (likely Bell) could also be waived and stretched for a $212,402 cap charge, allowing the Lakers to sign another player for the $1.6 million minimum in his place.

The other key piece of this is that the Lakers should now be able to re-sign Markieff Morris at a 20% raises on his minimum contract, as a non-Bird free agent. That would get them up to a salary of $2,797,912 to bring Morris back, and as with Gasol above they can offer him a second year with a player option as part of the deal.

After all this, the Lakers will have one open roster spot and about $3.7 million left below the hard cap line, which would give them the leeway to offer another “one-plus-one” two-year minimum deal to a free-agent guard. (The backcourt is looking a bit thin right now). If they waive Bell, as noted above, that’s another spot, but it might not be big enough to allow a “one-plus-one’ two-year minimum.

At the end of all this the Lakers have Gasol instead of McGee, but it cost them a second-round pick and the addition of two back-end bench players that they didn’t really want. But L.A. did preserve just enough flexibility to bring Morris back and sign another guard. The Lakers should also have enough financial wiggle room in-season to fill that last roster spot for the second half of the season.
Click to expand...

Helljumper, Nov 22, 2020

#3174

Barnstable, JohnnyComeLately2k6, TIME and 10 others like this.
The Rock - Lakers Starter -

Joined:

Dec 29, 2014

Messages:

2,940

Likes Received:

7,444

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

Helljumper said: ↑

Naw Pelinka is where the brains are at, I'm just trying to wrap my head around what this mad man is doing

This seems to be a better explanation from John Hollinger, which does confirm this gives us the flexibility to bring back Markieff:
Click to expand...

Thanks for sharing this helpful explanation.

Rob is proving once again he knows what he's doing. I can't believe some of the stories that were plotted about him last year that he was clueless about the cap. Rob's the man

The Rock, Nov 22, 2020

#3175

Barnstable, JohnnyComeLately2k6, TIME and 3 others like this.
Weezy Moderator Staff Member

Joined:

Sep 6, 2014

Messages:

18,563

Likes Received:

75,358

Trophy Points:

113

Location:

Anaheim

Offline

Hollinger having to break that down and essentially praise what our FO is doing is so satisfying.

Weezy, Nov 22, 2020

#3176

Barnstable, JohnnyComeLately2k6, TIME and 7 others like this.
KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

Joined:

Oct 5, 2014

Messages:

11,707

Likes Received:

23,759

Trophy Points:

113

Occupation:

Brow-beater

Location:

Las Islas Filipinas

Offline

All these from a man who doesn't know his way around the salary cap.

KareemtheGreat33, Nov 22, 2020

#3177

Barnstable, JohnnyComeLately2k6, JSM and 4 others like this.
lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

Joined:

Sep 7, 2014

Messages:

10,678

Likes Received:

31,765

Trophy Points:

113

Location:

La La land

Offline

Helljumper said: ↑

Naw Pelinka is where the brains are at, I'm just trying to wrap my head around what this mad man is doing

This seems to be a better explanation from John Hollinger, which does confirm this gives us the flexibility to bring back Markieff:
Click to expand...

Outstanding!

lakerjones, Nov 22, 2020

#3178

JohnnyComeLately2k6, KareemtheGreat33 and Cookie like this.
karacha Moderator Staff Member

Joined:

Sep 6, 2014

Messages:

8,620

Likes Received:

27,949

Trophy Points:

113

Offline

Reading that was just amazing. Thanks!

karacha, Nov 22, 2020

#3179

lakerjones, Barnstable, JohnnyComeLately2k6 and 5 others like this.
alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

Joined:

Oct 5, 2014

Messages:

13,585

Likes Received:

37,190

Trophy Points:

113

Location:

Laker Land

Offline

Helljumper said: ↑

Naw Pelinka is where the brains are at, I'm just trying to wrap my head around what this mad man is doing

This seems to be a better explanation from John Hollinger, which does confirm this gives us the flexibility to bring back Markieff:
Click to expand...

Nah Rob probably just stumbled unto this in 2K, he doesnt know the cap

alam1108, Nov 22, 2020

#3180

lakerjones, Barnstable and JohnnyComeLately2k6 like this.

(You must log in or sign up to reply here.)

Page 159 of 309

Thread Status:: Not open for further replies.

Share This Page