2019 Oakland Raiders Discussion

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    Awful first possession for Oakland, giving great field position to Manning.
     
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    Raiders down 3-0 after each team's first possession.
     
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    Damn. Carr has been sacked twice, killing both drives.
     
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    Eight plays, -7 yards of offense.
     
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    Justin Tuck tips a pass, and Keith McGill returns it for a TD. Let's see - review coming.
     
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    McGill's first start, I think. He comes in with just 4 tackles, 1 pass defended.
    He has added a solo tackle, that fumble recovery, and a TD.

    Nice job, rook!
     
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    Oof. McGill blows coverage, allowing a 31 yard strike to Sanders.
     
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    Raiders getting murdered in TOP and total yards.
     
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    First Quarter
    Oakland 9 plays, 4 yards
    Denver 23 plays, 168 yards

    Let's get this turned around ASAP
     
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    22 yard loss on snap through Carr's hands.
     
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    Carr tosses a TD to Jamize Olawale. Pulls Oakland to within two scores. Carr's up to 3218 yards and 21 TDs.

    Carr moves into 11th place among rookies, passing Russell Wilson and RGIII. Ryan Tannehill is next; Carr would need 78 yards to pass him.

    His 21 TD passes is tied for 8th most among rookie QBs. He is tied with Cam Newton.
     
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    A few jewels to start...now to get more. Oh and an absolute no to Rexy taking over as speculated.
     
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    Jack Del Rio a candidate. Sparano in the mix...probably just a formality. Maybe he can stay on as a top assistant. Raiders at 5 in the draft.
     
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    We're not likely to trade down, which is a shame - could've used more picks.

    I wouldn't be opposed to Sparano, honestly.
    What do we go for first - DL or WR?
     
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    Sigh... A stud DL can help pressure opposing QBs since it is a passing League nowadays. A very good one in Ellis is on board. Maybe Tuck can give another serviceable season. Woodley? Who knows? Could he come back from that freak injury. Linebacker and secondary corps is in good shape. Wide-outs? On the fence... Maybe, just maybe we can chance upon a diamond in the later rounds but yes it is imperative that Carr is given a top flight go to guy to throw to.

    That flea flicker for a near TD and that 4th down review summarized this season. Near misses that could shape overall mentality for the better. Things though are on the uptick...now it's time for The Son of Al and Reggie Mc to build on it.
     
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    What do you think about Sparano? Many players came forward to voice their support.
     
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    There was a write-up that Sparano is similar to Cable. It is somewhat valid. Tough, no-nonsense, no BS kind of coach. I like him BUT it is a League that sells to fans and free agents alike. Organization needs a coach that has that "star" quality that can draw in those two factions. It is really needed right now to escalate the rebuild process. I'm tired of hearing high level tier free agents spurning us because it is not cool to be here. Del Rio has that somewhat. Gruden? Definitely... Heck, I thought I read that Sean Payton is on the outs in Nawlins too. He has that "it" factor. Ryan does too as much as the thought repulses me.

    Read that Mark Davis held a meeting with The Michigan Man this morning.
     
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    I want Harbaugh far away from Oakland. I'm not impressed by del Rio, mostly because for whatever reason Jacksonville went deep into the trash. I mean deep. And I guess I blame him. I agree with your thoughts on Sparano.

    Of course I'd love to have Gruden back.
     
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    Lots of stats:

    Ranks among all-time Raiders

    PASSING
    Derek Carr's 348 completions was 3rd best, behind only Rich Gannon (twice).
    Carr's 3270 yards were 12th best in Raiders history.
    Carr's 21 TDs ranks him 16th in Oakland history.

    Carr's CAREER ranks in passing among Raiders:
    Completions: 14th
    Yards: 17th
    TDs: 14th

    RUSHING
    DMC's 534 yards this season were 74th best.
    LTM's 424 yards was 92nd best.

    DMC's 4247 yards are 6th best in franchise history.
    DMC's 25 TDs is 8th best.
    Marcel Reece is 26th with 808 career rushing yards.
    LTM is 46th with his 424.

    RECEIVING
    James Jones's 73 grabs were 21st most in franchise history.
    Mychal Rivera's 58 were 44th best.

    DMC's 211 career reception is 14th best.
    Reece's 175 reception is 20th best.
    Moore's 142 grabs are 27th best.
    Streater's 108 is 40th best.
    Rivera's 96 is 45th best.

    In terms of yards:
    Moore's 2169 is 21st best
    DMC's 1769 is 28th best
    Reece's 1746 is 30th best
    Streater's 1556 is 33rd best
    Holmes's 1124 is 44th best

    Receiving TDs:
    Moore with 17 is 19th best
    Reece's 9 is 33rd
    Streater and Rivera with 8 at 35th

    KICKING
    Jano has basically every place kicking record for Oakland.

    Marquette King's 109 punts is a Raiders record. His 4930 yards is a record. His yards per punt (45.1) is 15th best.

    King is already 7th in career punts, 6th in yards, and 2nd in Yards Per Punt.

    SCORING
    Janikowski's 85 points were 38th best in franchise history. In his career he has 709 points more than #2 on the scoring list (Blanda).
    DMC is 25th in Raiders scoring with 180 points.

    DEFENSE
    Charles Woodson is 42nd in sacks (8.5). Tyvon Branch is 43rd and Sio Moore is 46th.

    Woodson is 10th in career INTs among Raiders (22).
    Passes Defended:
    Woodson 4th at 47
    Branch 10th with 19
    Hayden 17th with 12.

    Forced Fumbles:
    Woodson 1st with 17
    Roach 16th with 4
    Branch 22nd with 3

    Tackles:
    Woodson is 3rd with 545
    Branch is 9th with 355

    RETURNS
    TJ Carrie's 26 punt returns is 38th best for a single season. His 195 yards were 38th best.
     
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    QB Impact: Post-Gannon Years
    I started keeping a stat to reflect the impact a QB makes on a franchise, solely from a passing/leadership POV. I find the post-Gannon years fascinating, because we've made so many moves, have brought in some interesting QBs, but ultimately have found no stability. Since 2004, no QB has started more than 28 games for Oakland, and we have had 17 different QBs start a game.

    Even finding a QB with a positive rating is tough. Campbell, Carr, and Gannon are the only Raiders QBs with a positive rating and more than 1 start. Because I'm considering only the Post-Gannon era, Gannon is disqualified, so that leaves Campbell and Carr.

    BTW, it's hard to score a positive rating on a losing team, because each loss is -1.

    Starts/Player/Impact Rating
    28 Collins -5.1
    25 Russell -17.5
    24 Palmer 0.0
    18 Campbell 13.3
    16 Carr 0.5
    10 Pryor -6.4
    9 McCown -4.3
    9 Walter -19.4
    8 Gradkowski -1.6
    8 Brooks -11.9
    6 Culpepper -0.5
    6 McGloin -4.2
    3 Gannon 4.6
    3 Frye -1.0
    1 Flynn 3.9
    1 Tuiasosopo -4.9
    1 Boller -5.9
    0 Leinart -4.3
    0 Schaub -4.5
    0 Losman -27.5
     

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