2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

@vasashi17 is there a way to trade for a player now like beal and get Kawhi or KD in the off season. I know Kawhi is like 7 million dollars cheaper?

 

We'd have to send out Cadwell Pope for sure to make salaries work. I'm not sure he's worth taking on two years with 50ish million after this season. He wouldn't make us marginally better IMO.

 

I wouldn't trade for a overweight/ injury proned player in John wall not to mention his bloated contract. I'll take beal though without gutting all our young talent.

 

The only player on the Wizards worth trading for is Beal but not sure how his salary would work with the FO's bigger free agency plans.

Wall is on a stupid, near impossible to trade for deal. Otto Porter is a good player but redudant here and being paid a little too much. Read somewhere Pelicans were targetting Otto, in exchange for Randle.

 

A couple things right off the bat...

How did Real not race into the bealdin' to break this news? Hahaha

Also Beal does not have a trade kicker, makes 25.4m, so a minimum of 20.3m needs to be sent out in a trade by us, Beal has 3 more yrs on his contract, so essentially he would be considered a salary dump if they're looking to blow it all up and re-beald and since the Wiz are out in the East they're more willing to make a trade with a western team.

So let's assume we clean house and trade the farm for Beal so that we are only left with Bron, Beal and Deng's dead cash = 69.5m

Since we got 2 on the roster, that leaves an 8.9m ten player incomplete roster charge for a grand total of 78.4m in team salary. That's good for only 30.6m in cap space, which is nearly 2m less than what Kawhi could get in a max deal and nearly 8m less than what KD could get.

So imagine if we hold onto Hart and Bonga at the minimum in a Beal trade, that means our cap space shrinks to less than 30m...again is Beal worth trading/shedding Zo, BI, Kuz etc and not having enough cap next summer to sign Kawhi, Boogie, Butler or KD?

Kinda a rhetorical question, right?

The most effective way to turn our current books into a championship roster is by waiting for next summer to use up all our cap space for a max player and then flipping our youth for a 3rd max player on a current cap friendly deal (like AD).

Plan of attack: use up cap to avoid the trap. Sign a max guy, then and only then trade for a max guy (unless that max guy is the guy you're trading for).

 

trade both Kawahi and Beal at the same time lol.....need to do some back channeling to KL and his rep and have him force a trade again

 

If we trade for Kawhi this year, he'll have a caphold of 30m on the books.

Again assuming we trade the farm for him, Bron, Kawhi, Deng's salary corpse, incomplete roster charge = about 82m in team salary; 27m in cap space (AD and Beal makes 27.1m next year)...it's possible to trade multiple future draft picks so that NOP/Wiz can dump AD's/Beal's entire salary into our cap, but in NOP's case, would they? And in our case, would we for Beal?

Which is why we need to hold onto some of our youth to trade to them in a potential AD package... however if we get the idea, NOP don't like any of our youth, then a godfather deal for Kawhi/Toronto is an option (although, I don't prefer it). But that's the back-channeling we need to work on...who in the league values our youth?

 

Vash I dont hold alot of hope in an AD deal, its rare that a player of AD caliber gets traded to same conference, we saw it already with PG and Kawahi. He's going east IMO, so is it possible to deal for Beal and Kawahi, only looking at cap fit (we dont need to discuss values)?

 

If you are looking for 3max players, it wouldn't be at all wise to trade for Beal right now. Trading for Kemba makes sense if you rather go that route than risk going the Kawhi or KD route.

But if you're going to prematurely pull off a trade this year, then you better be okay with a duo, rather than trio.

I clearly have a preference, cause I don't think any current duo can be the 2nd coming of the 3peat 1-2 punch! Other than them 2, Magic-KAJ and MJ-Pip..most duos are well...um...







Not that there's anything wrong with preferring a duo...

 

does ingram/zubac/kcp work for beal? should be close, but would have to happen 12/15 or later. could replace zubac with lance or beas if we needed more outgoing cash.

beal's a nice fit for the roster, imo.

and yes, i know it kills cap space for the summer. i'm just not optimistic that we'll get someone from the rapidly dwindling list of available players.

 

It falls short of 20.3m, which is the minimum we need in outgoing salary. KCP (and waiving his no-trade clause), Rondo or an agregated Zo/BI is a must in any starting package, otherwise we won't have enough salary to make it work.

@abeer3, Kcp has a 15% trade kicker and if he accepts a trade and exercises that kicker than a package of Kcp/BI/Zu works for Beal. If the Wiz don't want to pay extra taxes and need Kcp to waive his kicker, then you can replace BI with Zo or replace Beas with Zu, to make either package work.

Also here's more interesting stuff from the Beal front:



So what you're telling me is that bball is your musecage (clearly a Mamba soldier) and that your agent will handle all trade talks. That same agent, Bartlestein, who so happens to also represent Larry Nance Jr (the guy we traded to his hometown and got an extension with) and Make'em Dance Lance (the guy we signed immediately after we locked up LABron).

 

well if any trades happen with this team, wont be until december 15th right... if any trades go down

 

Yep Dec 15th is the earliest Kcp, Do, Lance, Beas, swaGee and {giggle} Bron (that one's for you hatahs) can be aggregated in a trade. February 6th is when the Chandman can be traded.

Bron and KCP both have 15% trade kickers which would pay Bron an extra 5.4m, making him an outgoing salary worth 41.1m, while KCP gets an extra 1.8m, making him an outgoing salary worth 13.8m and we all know KCP essentially has a no-trade clause this year, so his consent is necessary to trade him.

And heres another log for the Beal contingent...



I personally would target Klutch client Markieff Morris in the Wiz blowup.

 

if Beal only costs ONE of Zo and BI, I probably do it, simply because the Warriors are looking like they may actually combust from within, and no other team in the LEAGUE is looking like a clear cut finals favorite right now. You gotta take your chances with LeBron while he's still got this juice...it may be the perfect storm for us...

Then again...I actually agree with @vasashi17 on this...I prefer to wait until the summer and actually get a superstar FA and then trade the young core for a 3rd star. The Warriors will have disbanded (hopefully one of Klay or KD signs here) by then, and we'll be in a much stronger position to win it all with 3 stars (plus LeBron likely has one more year left of dominance before he actually starts to decline). I feel that we're playing it right by giving the young core this whole year to gel and prove themselves in the playoffs...so even if they're clicking and playing well...suddenly their trade values are through the roof and we got cap space and the best player on the planet to recruit potential FA's AND we can still pull off the AD trade.

 

@fabfourlakers, see I'm in the camp of exploiting Bron's prime while we can. But I'm also in the camp of having our young boys develop next to Bron to help keep him young, help win some games and in the process, increase their trade value so that we can trade for bigger fish when the time comes. So yeah, I'm kinda all over the f***ing place.

I understand why folks would trade for 2nd tier talent now cause there's no guarantee Kawhi, KD and/or a trade for AD happens. But why put that dream to bed? We gave up on young talent to create cap space with the opportunity to bring in Bron. Let's say he wanted us this summer but we didn't have that max slot...what would we have done? Let's say he woulda only came if there was another player that would join him (not named Paula) but that 2nd max slot wasnt there?

You trade for Beal, but how does it stack us up against a healthy Dubs team this year with Boogie coming back? If Kawhi or KD do decide to come this summer and we don't have the max cap...now what? I guess a s&t, but now you're at the mercy of Toronto or GS to make it work.

If AD does become a possibility, would just Beal as the primary outgoing salary holder be enough for NOP?

I know some of you have a far negative outlook, but if the possibility is there for it to happen, I'm not preemptively active in shutting those doors. Kawhi has demanded a trade to the Lakers...AD has signed with Bron's bff's sports agency. Wouldn't it be prudent to see how that s*** plays out first before we commit to Beal?

Anyways, it appears Beal is going to head out soon enough...

 

You try to get a guy like Beal who is 25yo, fits a big need, can take over games (just watch at what he did last season without Wall). I used to watch a lot of Wizards games since I used to like watch Wall play (before he started wasting his potential this year).

I am ready to ship out a guy like Lonzo along with Ingram. Who knows if they are ever able to do what Beal can do for us. We need to keep Hart and Kuz.

LeBron needs a 2nd scorer. It's not the time to wait when you can cash in on a guy like Beal.

 

I’d go Kemba over Beal (granted he resigns). Team would look better overall and more in line with what Lebron wants (Kyrie level PG) to play off of.

Also, money and cap hold wise if I’m looking at it right Kemba fits better. His cap hold is 18 million next year. Lonzo (8.7), Ingram (7.3) and Mo (2.1) comes out equal so we should still be right in line with the KD/Kawhi/Klay goal.

If it ever becomes available I hope Bron pushes for it because the kids are pretty meh right now. Hopefully it changes but it might be that the scenery has to change first before we see it