2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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  1. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    Just for fun, since @abeer3 brought it up:

    1. Renounce Cap holds for Lopez, Thomas, Frye, and Pope.
    2. Sign George to a 4/130 million dollar deal.
    3. Trade away Luol Deng with 2 1sts and 2 2nds. Throw in Zubac.
    4. Sign Clint Capela to a 4/107 million dollar deal.
    5. Sign Isaiah Thomas for 1+1/9.8 million with a player option.

    Lonzo/Thomas
    George/Hart
    Ingram/Kuzma
    Randle/(Kuzma)/Bryant
    Capela/M. Robinson

    Throw in a vet or something somewhere.
     
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    I like the ideas we are throwing around right now. Of course all of it depends on that first domino falling which is George. If he does sign with us, look out! We've got a lot of possibilities.

    I also agree with realdeal all the way. Despite what some knuckleheads are saying, Lebron paired up with George and a resigned Randle makes LA James' best possible option IMO. I see that as way more viable than a gutted Houston team which is what they'd have to do to sign him.

    We could indeed follow Boston's model, but with better players. Sorry but Lebron > than Kyrie, and PG > than Horford. Add in the rest of our young guys: Ball, Ingram, Kuz, Randle, and Hart and I'm ready to get back to our rivalry with the C Bags. Of course we'd need to knock off GS first, but they look like all these finals are getting to them.
     
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    I had a dream where Lebron was sent to Houston in a sign and trade and Melo opted out to go ring chase with them.

    Then PG ended up resigning with the Thunder because he thought Patterson instead of Melo and a healthy Roberson in the starting lineup made them a top 3 team in the west.

    The young Lakers ended up making the second round as a 7th seed knocking out GSW who looked burnt out.
     
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    sounds more like a nightmare lol
     
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  5. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    Just no to Capela for near max/max. Dude plays Jules minutes at nearly 26min per and is nowhere near RudyG in defensive rating/win share standings. In fact he's below CP3, Eric Gordon, Ariza and Harden (I REPEAT....behind Harden) in defensive win shares. He has the same defensive rating as Zo does and Zo plays more minutes than him. Not to mention Zo blows dude out of the water in terms of defensive win share rating. And get this...Capela in terms of defensive influence is comparable to Whiteside...THIS YEAR's Whiteside..the same dude that Spoels refused to play impactful minutes.

    He could be a top notch rim protector, but he ain't there yet. If the Lakers throw money at this guy this summer, first of all, its already a failure, because that would mean Bron/PG pairing never came to be and secondly it could be fools gold cause dude came on in a contract year and wasn't even comparable to other defensive centers in the league.

    Houston was impressive on defense this year cause of CP3...don't get it twisted.

    If the Suns want to throw him the max, then by all means go ahead and throw a wrench into Morey's operation....it just best not be us.

    #DontBeaSunOfaB****
     
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  6. Savory Griddles

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    I don't like Capela. He's decent enough, but strikes me as another one of those system centers that will get paid big and become a 10 and 8 guy in 25 minutes a game. If it's just Paul George, then our "Death Lineup" is Lonzo/PG/Ingram/Kuz/Randle. So why sign Capela to a large deal to not be on the floor when it comes time to win? I think the front office is serious about the "maybe one deal this summer and another next summer" statement. Capela is not where you blow your cap, especially when I like Randle better and he'd probably cost less and is a better player for our system.

    Attach as many picks as it takes to move Deng so we can keep Randle and sign Lebron with Paul George. That team with a little luck and just one of our young guns having "surprise" development over the summer can contend. The Rockets took the Warriors to game 7 and lost CP3 for the final two games. They are beatable, and a hungry Lebron, a hungry PG and a hungry young core can get there.
     
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    No to Capela...especially at 25M.

    And I'm liking our chances LeBron more and more each day....but as long as we get PG13 and KEEP RANDLE...it's a successful off-season.

    Also, if leBron doesn't come...I can see us getting Cousins on 1-year "PROVE IT" deal.
     
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    I don't like Capela.
    I'd rather give 30 minutes a game to Randle at center. He's better for this team because of the ability for everyone on the floor to switch.
     
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    I would do that, but Cousins ain't signing a one year deal with us. Another more desperate franchise will sign him to something more. Heck, the Pelicans would probably give him more love than a one year deal.
     
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    nop would do more than 1 yr but probably much lower than dmc would want n probably with conditions n tm opts on top of it....if i were dmc id take a large 1yr deal over a 3yr deal at say 5-10mill less on annual avg. why get stuck on lower contract when you can get a big time 1yr deal n try to prove yourself to get the max again following yr?
     
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    Maybe. Lots of moving parts this summer. The main thing is to dump Deng as quickly as possible and sign PG on Day One and let Randle know we will take care of him so he's just our cap hold. If we can get all that done on the first day, it will make us look very appealing to whoever is contemplating a move to us.
     
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    Question now is there anyway the Lakers can dump Deng without giving up a significant young player? If they lose even Josh Hart just to dump Deng, I would be irate. Only way that is tolerable is if it allows them to get another A list star to team up with PG and LBJ.
     
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    I would be pissed if we lost Josh Hart, but Hart isn't the player Randle is, so if the price is the Cleveland pick and Josh Hart to keep Julius Randle to add to Lebron, PG13, Lonzo, Ingram and Kuzma, I do it and never look back. That'd be way to good of a team to pass up.
     
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    Just attach as many picks as you have to.
     
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    Capela was a tremendous defender in the playoffs. He has it in him.

    Also, I dont think failing to get LeBron AND George should be classified a failure. Getting neither would be a failure I think, but just one is a success. Both is a miracle.
     
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    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    LA traded for 2max spots this summer. I wouldn't classify it as a failure, but not necessarily ideal either.

    Houston: cap hurdles
    Sixers: burned
    Cavs: really?

    If we miss out on Bron (perceived to be the best opportunity to get him) then imo we lost the summer and Klay, Klaw, Ky aka '19 is nowhere near as certain (and outside Klay, nowhere certain health-wise also) ...so use that cap up this summer. Like I said...it's ideal.

    Btw, Capela was 60th in defensive rating (minimum 30mins per) in these playoffs.
     
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    I agree with us being a natural fit, but there's a wide gap between ideal and failure. That's all I'm saying.

    If we get one dude, we're back in the playoffs and back in the conversation again.
     
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    We gave up D-Lo and Nance to dump Mozgov and Clarkson contracts...so my view is this:

    Would you trade D-Lo and Nance for PG13 and a 1st round pick in the 2018 draft? If the answer is YES, then this off-season is a massive success.

    Imagine if it becomes D-Lo and Nance for PG13, LeBron and a 1st round pick...

    Now imagine it becomes D-Lo and Nance for PG13, LeBron and Randle (we dump the first round pick with Deng)...

    Any scenario is a massive upgrade from where we were previously...so I'll be happy with any of the above outcomes.
     
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    Technically Mosgov and D-Lo produced the 27th pick in 2017 that turned into Kyle Kuzma. The Lakers may already have actually made the better move there. As a matter of fact, I make that trade 100/100 times. I believe Kuzma will be a star. Now, I believe the Lakers would have still got him a pick later, BUT, the Lakers do not have Josh Hart. So, That trade netted BOTH Kuzma and Hart, versus just having one, and they got rid of one of the worst contracts ever signed and a malcontent who looks to be a bust. Lakers already may have won that trade.

    Lakers trading Clarkson and Nance Jr was huge because Clarkson was way overpaid for his results. It would have been ok if he was a 6th man on a title team full of great and good starters, but unfortunately, Clarkson's effect on the game after his rookie year went to s*** and all he is good at is scoring well in games that mean nothing. Nance Jr is like a taller Shannon Brown, he doesn't have next level talent or even B talent. He is an energy guy on a title team, that's it.

    Once the Lakers rid themselves of Deng without taking back a stupid contract, they will be in complete control. They better hurry up too. Because when Adam Silver starts to hint on s***, like "hard cap" lingo, his s*** usually speaks itself into existence.

    Adam Silver wants to take over the NFL in being the #1 sport in the country. He needs ONE thing to really threaten the NFL in terms of popularity in the US, that's a league that can produce a champion without easy predictions.

    I would have NEVER, ever, thought anything could top the NFL in the US a few years ago no matter what any other league did. But the way the rules are being changed and how Roger Goodell's greed and the owners have just put so many forks in people eye, at some point they will finally fall off.
     
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    Wow. I totally forgot we did draft Kuzma with the 27th pick which we received in the D-Lo trade...so basically...it's D-Lo, Clarkson, Mozgov and Nance for Paul George, LeBron James, Kyle Kuzma, and Julius Randle (once we dump 25th pick with Deng).

    Are you kidding me? Unreal turnaround if this all falls into place...all while keeping Lonzo, Ingram and Hart.
     
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