2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

I'm not counting on George and was right there with you last summer on potentially trading for him.

I think there's a very real possibility we don't get him and I'm even less sold on Lebron coming here. Also, I'm not necessarily against a trade now just got a lot of questions about Kawhi right now.

There's little doubt of his talent when he's on but I'd like to know where his head is at and what's really happening with his injury.

 

The only young gun I’d trade for Kawhi is Lonzo. No way am I giving them Lonzo and Kuz. I’d have to find another way to make the salaries match. Ingram has proven he can run point, and with either Lebron or PG the ballhandling is set.

Ingram
PG13
Kawhi
Randle or Kuzma
Brook

Or

Ingram
Kawhi
Lebron
Randle or Kuzma
Brook

We also can roll the dice and wait until 2019 and lose nothing in return.

One huge factor that worries me is whether Kawhi is just a product of playing in Pop’s system, or is he a bonafide superstar?

 

Can we sign PG and Lebron AND trade for kawhi (Ingram and Kuz)?
Assuming we can unload Deng along with the cle pick, ZU and a future pick and then also let Randle walk.

Lonzo/Vet min ring chaser
PG/Hart/Andre ingram
kawhi/Hart
Lebron/vet min ring chaser
Brook really cheap/Bryant

Not saying I love this plan. Just throwing out instant contender grand slam swings by management.

 

At what point is Kawai Leonard going to start affecting his free agency value? He has basically been out the whole year. What does this say about his durability, and is anyone going to be willing to risk $40 million a year on a guy willing to take a year off?

I’m starting to lean towards damaged goods, and one of those guys that you say “what if” when you think about his career.

 

I hate the whole conversation of blowing 2 or 3 more guys out to buy a top heavy team with 3 max salaries. And watch our young star potential players that we had for cheap to play alongside the first two superstars planned (LBJ and PG) now go blossom into major stars themselves on other teams. Not how I want to see the talent we have so fortunately acquired get utilized. Am a player fan as well as wanting rings. The ring isn't the only thing. And I think others feel this way. As do those that want to load up just as much as we can as quick as we can at the cost of the elite young talent we have. Two different trains of thought for sure.

 

the problem is that the dwight treatment has happened exactly once, like, ever. generally, the team that trades for a star in his last year keeps him past that. else they won't trade for said star.

and again, we don't know what's happening there, and any team trading for leonard would certainly do their due diligence. it's possible that SA let him know a supermax wasn't coming, misdiagnosed his injury, then put pressure via the media to play through it. and he, like a sensible person, said, uh...f you. i'm not going to grant hill/isaiah thomas my way out of my next big payday so you can win a round in the playoffs.

they're only cheap talent assets for a short period of time, unless you plan on just churning them forever.

what if it's two young core and no picks AND they take deng's salary?

this is a reasonable take.

i just can't get behind the "we'll wait for the guy to become available, then offer him the same money to play with a bunch of 20 year olds that he can make playing with other superstars" plan.

tldr: trades are where it's at, bro.

 

The tenants will pay that gladly! I saw they were thinking about trading their picks to get Kawhi.

 

what are their picks? 11 and 14 or something? given the historical value of those picks, you definitely offer those for leonard. you offer those even if you're not sure he'll return to form.

 

Yeah, not much risk there....but can you imagine leaving the Spurs for the Clippers?



***suddenly reaggravates unknown and undisclosed previous injury***

 

Yeah I saw that they would offer both of those picks + whatever SAS wants from what talent they have left.

I do agree with you re: Kawhi's situation, no one really knows what's going on with him and the Spurs. I think most would agree it's been handled pretty poorly, they should've put the hammer on the nail and say that he wasn't coming back earlier in the season.

 

One young guy for Kawhi? I also have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. You’re talking about the best wing defender in the league and a 50/40/90 guy who can score you 25 a night. He is going to win a MVP (health pertaining obviously) and win more rings and FMVPs.

The spurs won’t give him up for a bag of chips, no matter how much we overrate our players. I think even Lonzo, Kuzma and two 1sts might not be enough to get him and unload Deng.

Relying on signing multiple FAs is a once in a generation scenario, not something to bank on. I’d make trades happen.

 

A pg/leonard pairing would be sick, adding BI to that pairing would be epic. I down to move ball n change for leonard....pg/ingram can easily initiate n run the O. BI aint no Simmons but he's more than capable of running an O imo, talk bout perimiter defense, those 3 would destroy gsw trio of klay/steph/kd defensively

 

Because Kawhi is a better player than George. Kawhi is a better defender, better shooter and s better offensive player overall. He doesn’t turn the ball over carelessly like PG, has better decision making and most importantly tries throughout the whole year.

For the last two seasons Kawhi has been top 3 in the league, Curry, Lebron and Kawhi. Followed by Harden, Durant and Westbrook. While there are arguments for PG not being a top 20 player.

 

Pg is a better 3pt shooter than kawhi imo, leonards 3 has to be wide open n setup unlike pg getting of his 3s on his own

 

Kawhi is the better shooter in 2's, 3's and from the free throw line - PG is very streaky. Not sure why it's a bad thing to take wide open 3's? That comes back to my point on decision making.

Also, PG this season has taken 42.5% of his shots with 0 dribbles in a catch and shoot situation, compared to Kawhi's 33% last season. So Kawhi has to create more for himself and he is a more efficient scorer across the board.

 

Leonard has only shot 40% from 3s once in his career n on very low volume, pg did it 3x on higher volume (his last yr at indy was 39%, id call it 40 lol)