2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

For what it’s worth, Lou and Bradley are expiring contracts, they’re unrestricted free agents this summer. If you want to re-sign Bradley, yeah, trading for him probably helps, but it doesn’t guarantee it. So as far as assets they aren’t bad, but they aren’t going to get something amazing (it took Bradley, Harris, 2 picks to get Griffin), and as far as attracting stars to the roster next season they don’t really count at all.

 

The Lakers young core is already today better than what the Clippers will have for Bron/George to play with. Next argument.

All those picks and... nothing to play with. Nobody. The Lakers have assets to move and players to play with. There's no argument there.

There's zero argument for the Clippers over the Lakers besides personal preference and Jerry West. Again, I'll take my chances. There's nothing there and I will be very, very surprised if the Clippers field a better team than the Lakers not just next year, but over the next 3-5 years.

 

I get that technically anything can be called an asset. But typically when someone says assets in terms of basketball, you're referring to something people want. Lou and the picks are the only things that I can see people actually calling about."Serviceable players" are on a lot of rosters. Bradley is more than serviceable, but isn't having a good year at all. Harris? I mean, he's decent stretch 4, but no one is coming to the Clippers to play with Gallinari and Harris. But in a trade, what do you get with two middle to late first rounders and Harris?

They are in a better position now and closer to getting back to the playoffs, but only because they have hit the reset button. Granted, another issue is with Harris and Bradley, they aren't great players, but they are good enough to win some games that will keep their own pick from getting too high. This coming draft will have them picking like 12, 15, and 29.

 

What solid roster is being put together? Please point to the pieces that the Clippers are likely to have for their future that are better than the Lakers' players with the possible exception of Jordan if he stays.

I don't disagree that the LeBron/George sweepstakes is at best a crapshoot, but you still cannot build an argument for the Clippers over the Lakers. All you have is an 80 year old Jerry West and a worse atmosphere, climate, financial situation than the Lakers. You haven't been able to argue against any of my previous points: how do the Clippers build trust into their pitch? Who believes a word they say now after their pitches to Jordan and Griffin? How do they explain Paul, a respected player representative, deciding to leave their organization? How do they argue against the ancillary financial benefits? The legacy (merchandise) benefits?

All you guys have said is "West and cap space" which isn't a strong enough argument to me.

 

I have a one word argument that destroys your entire argument: GALLINARI

 

I just realized my posts sound meaner than I mean them...

I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm just really honestly looking for a strong argument besides "Jerry West". I would like to see why the Clippers feel confident.

 

And I gave you one. GALLINARI!

(I'm actually in total agreement with you though.)

 

Yes I am absolutely laughing at the Clippers roster sans Jordan and probably Lou Williams. In fact, they'd better keep those two if they want to have any chance at convincing even a single max deal here.

Austin Rivers. Danilo Gallinari. Tobias Harris. Those guys strike more confidence in you than Ball? Kuzma? Ingram? Not just from a talent perspective, but from a financial impact perspective that's just preposterous. I am absolutely laughing at that roster compared to ours once they've gutted their entire franchise. Now they've role players that they'll have to probably cut. The Clippers with Griffin/Jordan won 6 more games than the Lakers. Hell the Lakers have probably lost 6 games easily that are from young, fixable mistakes. Not a good sign for the rest of their cast.

You're ignoring the damage that the Clippers have done to their own brand. How does trading your superstar sell? How does selling two of your superstars sell? How does Chris Paul leaving you sell?

No the Lakers "mystique" doesn't need to be the end game here, but if/when the Clippers sell off Jordan/Williams, they are in the same position the Lakers were in 2013-2014. Why is that a compelling landing spot? Because of Jerry West? What does Jerry West have to sell?

And if you're easily dismissing everything else, then I don't know what to tell you. I mean Laker fans almost voted Kuzma and Ball into the All-Star game. What does that tell you? Griffin wasn't even voted in this year. Jordan wasn't voted in this year. That doesn't happen if they're Lakers and many of these guys have bonuses for All-Star games, you command more money as an All-Star, let alone player goals for themselves.

Also, my argument isn't necessarily that we are more stable of an organization because we're still clearly rebuilding, but the Clippers just turned over the two best players in their franchise history, there are COUNTLESS takes of Doc Rivers being a massive problem over there and if they fire him/he leaves then there's more turnover for them.

I simply cannot see how the Clippers are an attractive landing spot besides "Jerry West". If that's all you need, that's great, but I'll take my chances. Seems like we're going to have to agree to disagree, but I don't see how the Clippers can be confident in this plan.

 

LeBron literally did that already. Exactly that.

Cavs 2014- 33 wins
Cavs 2015- signed LeBron James