2019/20 Players' Transactions: Breaking News , Trades, Free Agents, And Rumors

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    "You're welcomed Kareem..."
     
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    Hill definitely wants multi years.
     
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    I blame the so called brain of that dreadful duo, Kupchak. Jim gets a pass for being a moron.
     
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    This is lost on most people, Nuggets need several moves to create cap space. They'll be sacrificing that core to open up something for Hill
     
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    because Hill would make Denver better .

    Only keeper of the 3 guards you named is Murray
     
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    I honestly forgot Stuckey was still in the league.
     
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    Hill is probably thinking if he should take the longer contract with more guaranteed money or sign here for one year.

    To be real, this is the PERFECT opportunity for Hill no matter how much we win for him to have a great season to get paid next year if thats what he really wants.

    Also, if we trade Brewer thats another 6 mill we can offer. Maybe thats a possible holdup?
     
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    The hold up is the fact that Kupchak signed Deng to the worst contract in Lakers history, now we have a difficult time getting quality guys who are available.
     
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    Kareem, Hill here or not has no impact beyond next year really lol.
     
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    I see Hill and Lopez as insurance if we can't add another max guy with PG or if he changes his mind and we have no one. We can sign either one or both long term depending on the situation.
     
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    I feel you.. But we dont need Hill beyond next year if we get George.

    Yall can laugh all you want but Brewer is no slouch and hes still good on D, can run and can get you 10-12 pts IMO . Clarkson in the wings if needed fire power. Im not desperate for anything really..
     
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    Some fans are as delusional as our management(s) thinking the team improvement doesn't matter ( or little) because we are the Lakers .

    Guess what ? We've been sucking for 4 years and this team is still full off scrubs , no impact player has been magically signed

    An addition like George Hill (even for one season) would be important going forward
     
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    This team isn't full of scrubs. It's full of young players that are still growing and maturing. Big difference.
     
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    That's it our player are too young which makes the signing of a legitimate starter like Hill and trading for Lopez a necessity. We needed competent players, which bring me back to Mitch, who just gave up last year and started handing out contracts to anyone who'll sign them because of his ineptness to attract FAs. Now the new regime have to be creative to get good veterans and make sacrifices to correct Kupchak's incompetence.
     
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    Best Available:

    PG/Combo Guards
    George Hill +10
    Dion Waiters -3
    Derrick Rose -4

    WINGS
    Manu Ginobili +2 (is he retired?)
    Matt Barnes -1
    Thabo Sefolosha -2

    FORWARDS
    Otto Porter (offer pending) +8
    James Johnson +4
    Michael Beasley +3

    CENTER ELIGIBLE
    Pau Gasol +15
    Kelly Olynyk +8
    Zaza Pachulia +7

    I have a few more guys' stats to crunch quick, but that's the list right now.
     
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    failing hill, i'd give sefalosha a look on a one-year deal.
     
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    Here's the full list, with all the guys added that I'm aware of:

    Point Guards/Combo Guards
    Three SDs Up (averaged $37M/season)
    Stephen Curry +18 – Five years, $201M (age 29)
    Kyle Lowry G +18 becomes RFA Signs 3 year, $100M deal with TOR (age 31)


    Two SDs Up
    George Hill +10

    One SD Up (averaged $17M/season)
    Jeff Teague +6 – signs three year, $57M deal (age 29)
    Jrue Holiday +6 – signs five year, $126M deal (age 27)
    Darren Collison 0 – signs two year, $20M deal (age 29)
    Patty Mills 0 – signs four year, $50M deal (age 28)
    Middle of the Pack (averaging 5 M/season)
    Dion Waiters -3
    Derrick Rose -4
    Deron Williams -4
    Jason Terry -5
    Beno Udrih -5
    Michael Carter-Williams -6 Signs one-year, $2.7M deal with CHA (age 25)
    Langston Galloway G -7 (signs three year, $21M deal) age 25JORDAN CLARKSON -9
    Bobby Brown -9
    Ty Lawson -9
    Arron Afflalo -9

    One SD Down (averaging $2.3m)
    Ramon Sessions G -10
    Raymond Felton -11
    Jose Calderon -11 Signs one-year, $2.3M deal with Cleveland (age 35)Ronnie Price -11
    Brandon Jennings -12
    Trey Burke -12
    Randy Foye -12

    Two SDs Down (Minimum Contract)
    TYLER ENNIS -13
    Brian Roberts -14 (was a -9 last season)
    Aaron Brooks -16
    Norris Cole -17

    Wings
    Two SDs Up
    Averaging 15.3M/season
    Suggested: (One Year at 20M or multiple at decreasing amounts – 2 at 34, 3 at 42, 4 at 44? – as all are older)
    Kyle Korver +3 Signs 3 year, $21M deal with CLE (age 36)
    Andre Iguodala +3 (Signs three year, 48M deal with GSW) age 33Manu Ginobili +2
    CJ Miles FG +2
    JJ Redick +1 (signs 1 year, $23M deal) age 33



    One SD Up - averaging ~10M/season
    Suggested: (One year might start at 18, two at 36, three at 48, four at 56; adjusted down for age)
    Matt Barnes -1
    Thabo -2
    Tony Allen -3
    Shaun Livingston -3 – signs three year, $24M deal (age 31)Tyreke Evans -3
    Tony Snell -3 signs four year, $46M deal (age 25)*Tim Hardaway Jr. -4
    *Kentavious Caldwell-Pope -4
    *Andre Roberson -4

    Middle of the Pack


    Averaging 4M/season (good deals)

    (People overpaid like crazy for these players last year. These are players I’d consider on MLE-type deals, 5-8M per season.)
    LUOL DENG -6
    Ian Clark -6

    KJ McDaniels GF -6
    Justin Holiday -6 Signs 2 year, $9M deal with CHI (age 28)
    Jodie Meeks -7 (Signs two-year, 6.7m deal with Washington) age 29Nick Young GF -7
    Reggie Bullock -9 (becomes UFA)
    Ben McLemore -9 Signs 2 year, 10.6M deal with MEM (age 24)*Jonathan Simmons -10
    Vince Carter -10
    Dahntay Jones -10
    *Shabazz Muhammad -10 (worst defender at his position)
    James Jones -10
    Anthony Morrow -11
    Wayne Selden SG -11 signs 2 year deal with Memphis for $2.9M (age 22)
    One SD Down (These are Vet Min to Room Exception, 1-4M)
    POST ASB BRANDON INGRAM -12*
    Shelvin Mack -13
    Sasha Vujacic -13 (was a -8 last season)
    Patricio Garino -14
    Alan Anderson -15
    Sergio Rodriguez -15
    *Ron Baker -15
    Brandon Rush -15
    Alex Toupane -15
    James Young -16

    Two SDs Down
    These are Vet Min Players
    BRANDON INGRAM -18

    Forwards
    Three SDs Up
    They ended up averaging ~28M per year


    Paul Millsap +13 Signs three-year $90M deal with Denver (age 32)
    Blake Griffin F +13 Signs five-year, $172M deal with LAC (age 28)
    Two SDs UpAveraging ~7M/season (these are incredible deals, in my view)
    Suggested Porter is getting max. The other gents could go in search of a ring. If not, they could be looking at solid paydays. At 30, Johnson could see an incredible deal, approaching 20M per season.
    *Otto Porter Jr. +8
    David West +8 Signs a one-year, $2.3M contract with GSW (age 36)
    Amir Johnson +7 Signs one year, $11M deal with Philly (age 30)Danilo Gallinari F +7


    One SD Up

    Averaging 14M/year
    There are some excellent players here. Players better suited to SF earned a good deal more money than those who were more PFs last season in this range. If that continues, Johnson, Beasley, Gibson, and Williams could all see huge salaries – in the 15-18M range. The Lakers could add a quality player in Splitter if they want an upgrade on defense. That’s precisely what I’d try to do if I were LA – look at a two year, $19M deal for Tiago.
    James Johnson +4
    Michael Beasley +3
    Taj Gibson +3 Signs a two-year, 28M contract with Minnesota (age 32)*Alan Williams +2 (becomes RFA)
    Tiago Splitter +2
    *Nikola Mirotic +2
    Zach Randolph +1
    Brandon Bass 0

    Middle of the Pack
    Averaging 10.5M/season Note that Randle is in this group, meaning the Lakers are already in decent shape with their current starter. If he continues to improve with age, he could jump into the next higher group by next season, but there are good options available that offer different skillsets – like Ilyasova for shooting, Tucker for defense.
    *Joe Ingles -1 Signs four year, $52M deal (age 29)Luc Mbah a Moute F -1
    Ersan Ilyasova -1
    JULIUS RANDLE -2
    PJ Tucker -2 Signs four year, $32M deal with HOU (age 32)*JaMychal Green -2
    Christian Wood -4
    Jonas Jerebko -5
    Kris Humphries -6
    Thomas Robinson -6
    *Bojan Bogdanovic -6
    Udonis Haslem -6
    Alex Poythress -6
    Dante Cunningham -7
    Patrick Patterson -7

    One SD DownIf you’re signing one of these players, it’s either for depth or you’re speculating. I steer clear of Green and Metta like the plague. Motiejunas is the only one in the group that offers a good skill – his defense.
    Jordan Hill FC -8
    James McAdoo -9 (becomes UFA)
    Donatas Motiejunas -9
    Omri Casspi -9
    Metta -9
    Luke Babbitt -10
    Adreian Payne -10
    Jeff Green -12

    Two SDs Down
    These are end of the bench players, but Troy Williams isn’t a bad prospect.
    *Troy Williams -13
    Derrick Williams -16
    Damjan Rudez -17 (UFA)

    Center-Eligible
    Ibaka will be paid as either the best aging Center-eligible player in the crop or as one of the top five Forwards. He’s going to get a max or near max deal.


    New Contender

    Pau Gasol C +15
    --Gasol is such an interesting case, because he’s playing lower minutes, but he’s still giving incredibly high quality contributions – on both sides of the court. He’s been able to post above average defensive numbers the past three seasons. He’s old, but I could see a 2/30 deal maybe.


    Two SD Up

    Averaged 22M
    Serge Ibaka +9 Signs 3 year, 65M contract (age 27)
    One SD UpWho’d have imagined this? Olynyk is in line for a max deal. He’s right where Dwight Howard was last year – but five years younger. Zaza was at +5 last year, and he’s been even better slotted into a good team. Even if he falls off a bit, he’s an above average center and a good candidate for a short, high-paying deal or a ring chase. Noel is my favorite among the Center prospects, and both he and Plumlee could be in for massive paydays. Their deals should probably start at around 15M.
    *Kelly Olynyk +8
    Zaza Pachulia +7
    *Nerlens Noel +6
    *Mason Plumlee +5

    Middle of the Pack - averaging $5.5M per season
    Some good, quality vets here. The Lakers could do worse than to invite back Hibbert, but McGee might be a cheaper option and a better fit. Nene continues to be excellent despite his age; he was at only +1 last season, and he found a good role on a good team.
    Dewayne Dedmon +4
    Nene Hilario +3 – 3 years, $11M with Denver (age 34)*Alex Len +2
    Aron Baynes FC +2
    David Lee FC +2
    Willie Reed +2
    Mike Muscala +1
    Nick Collison +1
    Roy Hibbert +1
    Marreese Speights +1
    JaVale McGee +1
    Cristiano Felicio 0 – signs four year, $32M deal (age 24)

    One SD Down
    Center is pretty deep. The Lakers have three just below average bigs. Zubac is likely to improve a good deal next season. He could be into the low average range by next season’s close. Mozgov was at -2 last season, meaning he actually played slightly better this season. Let that sink in.
    Jeff Withey -1
    TARIK BLACK -1 (one of the better positional defenders)
    Bogut C -1 (still top 5 defender in the NBA over the last three seasons)
    Joel Anthony -3
    IVICA ZUBAC -4

    Two SD Down
    Probably not worth a contract. Center is deep.
    Walter Tavares -7
    Lavoy Allen FC -7

    Four SD Down (Ouch)
    Again. Ouch.
    *Joffrey Lauvergne -12 (becomes RFA for some reason)

     
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    i wonder how much hill's hesitance to sign has to do with PG

    perhaps he's making sure PG will join him in LA next season before signing? that way he can get the multi-year contract he wants
     
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