2015 Free Agent Discussion

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  1. trodgers

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    I don't think Harris would be a fourth option on our team. He's more proven as a scorer than anyone not named Kobe on our team. Other than that great post.
     
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    Just some nights when some combination of Kobe, Jah, Jordan, and Randle are all hot would Harris end up as the 4th or 5th option even. On those nights does he stay engaged? I think he's young enough to adapt and figure it out all in the name of winning, but it'll be a transition going from being relied on all the time to being a cog in the machine.

    That being said, it's unlikely Kobe stays healthy and as soon as he's hurt I'd say Harris is the guy on the perimeter we'd look to create offense for himself.
     
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    I'm more concerned thinking about how many "glue" or "3 and d" role players who receive max deals are content to remain role players. Harris has been different options on his team. Carroll has been a role player. Does he stay engaged after earning the $? Not many have done that.
     
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    I don't think that'd be the case on a nightly basis. Outside of Kobe trying to be Kobe, I think there will be nearly a nightly flux in the pecking order. Ride the hot hand, get the young guys involved without burning them out will likely be the game plan. But there would certainly be nights where Randle, JC, and Jah would eat before him. I'm not sure how he'd handle that. A perk on being a good player on a bad team is you get ask the looks you want and some you don't want. I think that's one reason NY is attractive to him, he's #2 there every night.

    Edit: I see TRD basically covered my concern.
     
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    In some cases, such as Carroll, I think he does. Best example was him coming back in the Cavs series when he was barely 50% because he wanted to win and wasn't sure when he'd be in that position again. 7/10 guys shut it down after that. 9/10 soon to be FAs would. He could've easily come back, done more damage physically and dropped his value in half this summer (like how Matthews value tanked when he got hurt) but he's a fighter and didn't want to let the team down. I don't think a guy like that ever gets fat and happy. Give him $100m and I think he's still on the front line, ready for war.
     
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    I like all your informative posts.
    I'm leading towards Carroll.

    Is Middleton pipe at this juncture?
     
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    @tttttada everyone says the Bucks will match anything thrown at him. Dumping salary in the Detroit deal helped, too (though they want to spend some of that on Chandler or Lopez).
     
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    OK thanks. So Butler, Kawhi, Middleton are out. Are Carroll and Harris the best available SF's? Are we missing anyone?
     
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    Green might be. The other Green is, but he's not in the same league.
     
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    For me it's Carroll, Harris, then probably Danny Green. Best available-ish wings out there.
     
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    Wait which Green are we talking about? :D
     
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    So to me it looks like the best fit would be Carroll, then Harris, then Green, but the order is reversed when talking about the easiest attainable.
     
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    Well not necessarily. By default the hardest to get to is Harris. He's an RFA so Orlando could decide they want to keep him even at a max contract and we're stuck with nothing. I'd say Carroll is next hardest and then Green. I have a feeling Danny Green will go to whoever pays him the most and will perform below contract expectations... Just a gut feeling I have no evidence to support that.
     
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    Danny and Gerald. First better. Second more attainable.
     
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    Don't forget Draymond. He's also a RFA, but he's untouchable as well at this point.
     
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    Yeah I just checked Orlando's 2015-16 salary and they definitely have the cap space to sign him. I guess if they draft Winslow or Johnson we'd have a good chance of stealing him away.

    Danny Green is the definition of a system player. Everyone looks great on the Spurs.

    I'm getting on the Carroll train for now. Everything about him sounds legit.
     
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    For Orlando they might let Harris go in order to free up room for their other young guys. Harris is the one that doesn't seem to fit. They say they'll match anything, but scuttlebutt around the NBA is that they're full of it.
     
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    My perfect world sees us draft Anderson and he turns out to be our Danny Green. That way we don't need Carroll or Harris. But that's at least 3 years away.
    And if we've learned anything, Scuttlebutt is a legit mofo.
     
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    I just can't pass up the opportunity to use the world scuttlebutt.
     
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    What's GSW's situation? They have two max players in the backcourt, and sizable deals with Iggy and Bogut and Lee. Can they afford to Max Green? If not, I'd throw the Max at Draymond Green.
     

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