The further Duke goes in the tourney the less chance we have of Ingram. I agree with @Lakers2015 -- Ingram is a better fit and we don't have to trade a young stud.
Not to mention I want to see how good Randle looks after having an entire off-season to work on the jumper and hone that skill set.
I think randle's highly unlikely to be moved. I think his trade value is actually pretty low, despite the big rebounding numbers. it's ok by me. I think we need another year to see what we've got. at that point, we'll see if the general disinterest in him as a prospect is warranted or not.
Are you kidding me? Any team that wouldn't want a guy who's already a double double guy who has through the roof potential is well that's one incompatent franchise. He absolutely would have great trade value, but the Lakers are smart not to move him. I'm really getting sick of the ridiculous hate this kid gets. He is a BEAST. The dude hasn't really acquired a real offensive game yet and he's still without question one of the top rookie bigs. He's already an elite rebounder and has shown substantial improvement in other key areas. People have complained about his passing me included and he just he two career high assists games including a triple double. His efficiency has gone up since the break. I mean what more do you want? He's playing with so much more control and he's looking for his teammates and getting quality looks for them as opposed to just forcing it. He's still had lapses defensively, but he's definitely shown good signs. We don't need another year. We know we already have a young stud. Two as a matter of fact. We just need a hire a young coach who will get the f*** out of the way and allow them to grow. Not be a progress stopper. It's just mind boggling the hate Julius gets. Missed his whole rookie season. On a very short list of rookies to average a double double. He's starting to play a very good all around game. Progress has been immense and evident. He's a relentless worker and he's not gonna stop working. It's just ridiculous to me that people act like he's not gonna continue to improve and act like he's having a bad rookie year. When you consider everything going up up against him. Byron, having to black with Hibbert who clogs up the lane and can't rebound to save his life, Kobe who has much as I love him he looks for his more often than not, that vigorous rehab, being an undersized power forward and having to overcome that.
I really don't wanna trade Randle, unless we're talking for some superstar, which isn't likely. Double double machine, one of the best rebounders in the league already as a rookie. Especially don't want to trade him for that a**hole Cousins. Yeah, he's a great player, but that sure hasn't taken a pretty decent Kings roster anywhere near the playoffs.
Weezy, I would trade Randle in a heartbeat for Cousins. Cousins hasn't gone anywhere because he plays for a SH*T franchise and has never had a good coach. With that being said, I would also love to keep Randle and see him grow...i wasn't sold on him earlier this season but he's already made improvements to his game that I didn't think he would make for a few years. He's proven me wrong. The dude can play despite his physical limitations at his position.
George Karl isn't a good coach? He is, and Cousins can't get along with him, hasn't from day 1. I want no part of that guy, he puts up great numbers and his team doesn't win crap. The way I see it they have a roster at least comparable to Portland, yet only one of the 2 is in the playoff picture. Cousins is like T-Wolves Kevin Love to me right now, fantastic numbers, never taken his team anywhere. You need like the best, most stable front office ever in place, and one of the best coaches in the league with an amazing staff just to handle this guy, and we have neither.
Meh ..... more empty stats. Nothing to see here keep moving. Or change the title on this thread already.
no. the league-wide perception of randle right now verges closer to the "haters" than yours, I think. i'll be shocked if anyone offers a current allstar for a randle-centered package. and as I said, I'm ok with that. his ceiling is still pretty high, but I don't see him making the progress that others do thus far this season. I think we'll know a lot more in October, actually. if you're right, then teams will be lining up with offers of established vets for him. and the lakers won't trade him. long and short of it is that I think he's highly unlikely to be moved in any case.
Randle might emerge as the biggest bright spot for this team. He's been so consistent - at a high level - for so long. We're sleeping on him a bit. He has averaged a double double in December, February, and March. He was at 10.1 rebounds and 9.9 points in January. He was at 11.8 points and 8.9 rebounds in November. In March: 30.0 MPG, 13.8 PPG, 11.6 RPG, 2.3 APG, and 48.5% FGs. In fact, since the ASB: 29.9 MPG, 13.6 PPG, 11.4 RPG, 1.7 APG, and 48.2% FGs. His 32 double doubles are tied for 14th in the NBA. There are only nine bigs with more double doubles. I'm not taking a stance on his value around the NBA. No clue, but I'd rather not trade him unless it's for the type of player we likely couldn't get anyway.
Psh! I've been wondering where the love is at all year! This is my favorite kid from the young guys. Not because he's cool or even seems nice to hang out with. He seems like a hot head with attitude issues sometimes that's slow to adapt. He's also extraordinarily talented and if you could get him pointed in the right direction I think he can be special in the NBA. That being said, I actually agree with abeer3 that his trade value is likely low. I think the only one with decent trade value (meaning you could get a pretty big return with just him) is Russell. I think Clarkson/Randle gets you the same amount in a trade as Russell alone. I'm okay with that though, I don't want to trade those guys anyway.
I hope his trade value is low. We would be crazy to trade him unless it was necessary to get one of the top two or three players in the league. Even then I would grumble. His strength, skill and attitude set him apart. Once he has some skill development time there is just no telling how good he can be. I don't trade any of the young gun core. If we keep our pick things are going to get very interesting around here.
I think people are roughly saying the same thing I am, actually. just the tone is different. I just think if you step outside of laker fandom, people see a guy putting up decent numbers on an epically bad team. and when they watch him play their team, they see some pretty ugly basketball (fairly effective, but ugly). thus, the "hate". so, I think he's ours. and to reiterate: I'm glad. he has one established skill already, and there's a possibility for more. and he was clearly drafted too low based on what we've seen so far from that class. saying that I think he can't net an allstar in trade is not "hate"; I'm not even positive Russell could fetch an allstar in trade right now. teams don't just trade players of that caliber for anything short of can't miss type prospects.
Well, probably 6 of his 10 assists are of hand-over variety, not like he was drawing defenses and finding a cutter or something.... 18 rebounds in 34 minutes, on the other hand...
He wasn't dropping dimes in traffic, no but honestly he hasn't even been making these kinds of easy passes so I'm excited about it.
So Julius drops 10 dimes, 18 boards and 13 points and the few fans he has are still having to kind of defend him. It's insane. But whatever, like a few of us I'm thrilled to have this guy despite how "ugly" his game is. The important part is that he's effective. The results for the most part are nice and pretty. I'm with TRodgers - Julius has been a huge bright spot this season in a brutal season. Just improvement after improvement in all areas (except his outside shot which will need a lot of work in the offseason). He's really learned a great deal of control on the offensive end which is something he desperately needed to do. Improved the right hand. Raised the shooting percentage. The picks for the shooters are getting better. The rebounding is ABSURD! :Headbang:
