Cavs will trade **edited** RESIGN Tristan Thompson

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  1. sirronstuff

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    Just my gut feeling...... [​IMG]

    or at least they should consider it. They have a 93 million dollar payroll without him right now, the salary cap is 70 million. He wants 25 million!!!

    If they sign him, they would pay an astronomical amount in luxury taxes. With Love back, Varejao back, and a full season of their new 7 footer, do they really NEED him back? Is there room for him and enough minutes?

    I would flip him for assets right now to keep their train moving for years to come. Load up on draft picks or cheap talent, and maximize his worth. I doubt it ever gets higher, and someone will massively overpay him as an undersized PF free agent next year. And Cleveland simply can't afford it and be responsible at the same time.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Cleveland has taken care of their own and handed out absurd contracts to the likes of JR Smith, Shumpert, and others. At some point, the penalty of signing him just isn't worth it.
     
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    But he's Rodman 2.0, how can they let him go?!
     
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  3. sirronstuff

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    They can and they can lose money as a franchise, blame the players, and push for a hard cap in the next CBA negotiations while blaming fiscal responsibility on the players lol

    :woozyshaq:
     
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    What's your motivation for helping chumps Gilbert and James out here with good advice? I say give the man what he wants and then wait for LeBron's turn to "break" this year. All that money....all those penalty taxes with the repeater tax not far behind. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
     
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    Let Gilbert push all he wants.... aren't the players due for payback this next deal after getting bent over the last one?
     
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    The league also negotiated TV revenue to keep showing up even if there is a work stoppage. League has a TON of leverage right now, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a stoppage again.
     
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    I'd say bye Tristan... Dude isn't worth that dollar amount at all...
     
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    I'd say do it Sammy, do it!!
     
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    Thompson isn't worth "close to max money" that he's asking the Cavs for. I doubt any other team is interested either at that price.
     
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    ^^^ ..... all the more reason ..... Do it Sam! Do it for LeBron.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    His stats are almost identical to Ed Davis...their age isn't that different either. I would argue Davis has better stats and better defense.

    Its amazing to me how this unfolds...

    Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    1 Davis 14-15 25 79 24 23.3 3.6 5.9 .601 .601 1.2 2.4 .487 2.9 4.7 7.6 1.2 0.6 1.2 0.7 2.6 8.3
    2 Thompson 14-15 23 82 15 26.8 3.3 6.0 .547 .547 1.9 3.0 .641 3.3 4.7 8.0 0.5 0.4 0.7 1.0 2.3 8.5

    For these stats on a 36 mpg basis along with advanced stats which I'm not listing here, Davis trounces Thompson, leading in virtually every category. Notably, his overall lead in production is captured by a higher PER, while leads in TRB%, AST%, STL%, and BLK% suggest that Davis is having a more tangible impact on games than Thompson.

    Rk Player Season MP PER TS% FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    1 Davis 14-15 1840 20.0 .594 .403 13.3 23.1 18.0 8.3 1.4 4.3 9.5 14.8 4.6 1.6 6.3 .164 1.1 1.9 3.0 2.3
    2 Thompson 14-15 2194 15.6 .580 .508 14.5 19.7 17.2 2.7 0.8 2.2 12.2 14.0 4.7 2.1 6.8 .148 -0.3 -0.3 -0.6 0.8

    The box plus/minus stats are also heavily in Davis' favor. These numbers are especially relevant as they control for the quality of team, unlike traditional plus/minus. In other words, Davis would have a poor traditional plus/minus because the Lakers were not very good, but box plus/minus adjusts for team success and converts to a per 100 possessions scale so Thompson and Davis can be fairly compared despite the different success level of their teams. Remarkably, Thompson has negative scores suggesting that his contribution is actually worse than an average player, while Davis has a net positive 6.0!

    I'm not even saying Davis is better...I'm just saying there is a case to be made that they are similar. 2 years of age difference cannot lead to Davis getting 20 mio. and Thompson getting 90 friggin million...amazing.
     
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    This is all out there in the above postings but here's a new article today talking about Thompson's situation.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tristan-thompson-turned-down-80-140500082.html

    LOL one thought that popped into my mind, for any long time Dodgers' fans here, is Jody Reed wants his new contract decision making process back. :magicsmile:

    http://articles.latimes.com/1994-03-13/sports/sp-33669_1_jody-reed

    In 1994 dollars that $7.8 mil of course would buy you a lot more. Also am aware they are in different stages of their careers.

    Still rooting like hell for Gilbert to PAY the man what GM LeBron wants him to have.....

    [​IMG]


    In fact Spree wants in for recognition of this genius contract negotiation tactic as well.... also being an early "pioneer". :Laugh:

    http://financialjuneteenth.com/latr...r-100-million-but-now-has-no-house-no-family/
     
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    The guy is a nincompoop. The Cavs 80M offer was ridiculous in itself. He'll be lucky to get 5million in the open market now. Go to Europe or China.
     
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    He should fire his agents, and crawl back and look for a reasonable deal claiming he was "poisoned" by bad advice.
     
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    Their payroll must be ridiculous. I'm gonna laugh when they don't win again.
     
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    The Cavs are crazy! $82 mil for a role player
     
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    They're like Oprah..."you get a contract and YOU get a contract YOU. GET. A. CONNNTRRRAAACT!"

    handing them out like hot cakes. Enjoy paying nearly 2x as much with taxes for a roster that won't be winning any trophies.
     
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    Is this the highest NBA payroll of all time? If not, how is that possible?
     
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    And when they don't win and be stuck in tax payer hell for the next couple season Dan Gilbert will throw a hissy fit during the next CBA negotiations.
     
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