Star Wars Thread (a Galaxy Far Far Away) Obi-Wan Movie In The Works! (36)

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  1. Weezy

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    I like it a lot, it’s a fresh, fun show, disconnected from most other stuff we’ve seen so far. The kid cast is really good, Jude Law has been great, it’s just been fun. I had such little hopes going in, but still went in completely open-minded, and that has been rewarded. There’s no way Kathleen Kennedy had any hand in this as well aside from giving it the ok to go ahead, it’s too much like old Star Wars. Characters facing actual peril, failing, learning and growing, unlike certain characters in the sequel trilogy. I guess it took using actual kids to get that same sort of feel the original Star Wars cast had, like genuine wonder and growing friendships as they experience adventure together. Looking forward to seeing where it goes from here, and I hope more people start watching, I would definitely call the show appropriate and fun for the whole family. That and Disney needs to be shown by the audience numbers that this is more of a direction that people like.
     
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    Completely agree. I was tempted to skip it but my son (age 8) was actually interested in it after seeing a commercial. He’s never expressed interest in anything Star Wars so I said sure. I figured he’d tap out pretty quickly once it started to stink.

    but what do you know, we both are enjoying it. There’s enough mystery and lore to keep me watching and he likes watching the kids figure things out.

    Maybe the best thing for me is it’s a show that actually feels like it’s written by people who like Star Wars and the Jedi. All the other shows could learn something from that.

    So I’ve gone from not caring to also hoping more people watch and we get more seasons of this. They damaged the brand so much that I totally understand why so many gave up but hopefully Disney sees they’ve got something here and keep it going. They could actually carve out a unique part of the Star Wars universe here and actually do the work and build great new characters instead of just telling us the characters are great and getting mad at everyone for disagreeing
     
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    I'm also enjoying Skeleton Crew. I really liked the first couple of episodes, the last few not quite as much but still fine overall. It was fun to see a slice of life in the Star Wars galaxy on At Attin completely detached from the Skywalker/Palpatine/First Order stuff. That's what I hoped we would get from Mandalorian (a look at the broader galaxy) before it became so focused on showing the New Republic and Snoke/Palpatine cloning stuff. The idea of a handful of planets being hidden from the broader galaxy such that they're stuck in the pre-Empire era is genuinely interesting.

    If Skeleton Crew finishes strong and Andor Season 2 lives up to Season 1, there could be some momentum behind the brand again. I don't think its a coincidence that the two best-received Star Wars TV shows so far (Skeleton Crew and Andor) are side projects under the purview of proven showrunners (Jon Watts and Tony Gilroy), rather than Filoni and Favreau projects. Obviously the first and second seasons of Mandalorian were well received, but I'm not sure they've aged well and the 3rd season was pretty bad. I'll always appreciate what Filoni did with The Clone Wars, but his live action stuff just hasn't hit the same.
     
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    Honestly I feel like the Mandalorian got stretched too far due to its success.

    Basically, that story got put in the position of having to try and carry the whole franchise after the sequels flopped. I think they were pressing and trying too hard instead of letting the story keep building organically. that caused the story to suffer as they kept working in new characters and storylines losing too much of the focus from Mandi and Grogu. I’m hoping they get that back on track.

    Star Wars has to accept the hole they are in and slowly build back up instead of trying to trying to hit all home runs. Tell good stories and win the fans back over. Skeleton Crew could be the start of that.
     
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    Yeah, they tried to turn Mandalorian into the blockbuster that the sequels failed to be. I also don't think its a coincidence that Skeleton Crew and Andor have been well received and are intended for more niche audiences than the other shows. Skeleton Crew is clearly geared towards kids, and by extension their parents with Star Wars nostalgia. Andor is closer to prestige TV like Succession or True Detective. I thought Mandalorian was going to be a grittier, underbelly of the galaxy kind of show. But they crammed it with stuff that doesn't really fit together to try and market it to everyone (Grogu for the kids/women, Ahsoka for the Clone Wars die hards, Snoke/cloning subplot for the people that actually liked the sequels, an AI generated Luke for the OG fans, Jack Black and Lizzo for...someone? lol).
     
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    ... interesting.
     
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    Hopefully, they just start from scratch in some other part of the galaxy. I honestly don't even care how they explain it lol. Just a separate group of Jedi went to a whole different part of the galaxy and everything here is as it should be. Jedi are good guys. Sith (or even better a completely new legitimate threat) are the bad guys. Lightsaber fights. etc.

    Stop overthinking things and just tell a good story.
     
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    I thought the end of Skeleton Crew was fine. Maybe a little underwhelming, but fine. Overall a pretty good show that I'm glad I watched. We're just about 3 months away from Andor Season 2 which I am very excited about.
     
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    Yeah. I'm ready for season 2 of Andor as well.
     
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    Cutting and pasting from the "What Are You Watching Thread":

    Just finished a rewatch of Andor in anticipation of season 2 starting later this month. It's outstanding. IMHO it's the only truly great Star Wars since the OT. Yes, yes, I know, Rogue One isn't half bad, but I think it's more of a mess than people want to admit, and in any event, isn't anywhere near the level of the OT. With Andor, though, I can finally love something Star Wars again, unconditionally.
     
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    I’m a prequel fan, so I have plenty of SW to love. Episode 3 either my 2nd or 3rd favorite SW movie depending on the day, I think it’s aged well, and Disney’s garbage movies have only made it look better, pretty cool it’s coming back to theaters. But yes, I loved Andor, and Rogue One is the only Disney Star Wars movie I enjoy, after Andor Season 2 I’m out on Disney SW for good, there’s nothing they could do to bring me back, other than sell SW to somebody else that actually makes it good again.

    Funny enough, Disney SW has actually pushed me into Star Trek, old, not modern. I grew up watching the TNG movies with my uncle taking me to the theater to see them, but I never knew much of what was happening because I’d seen zero other Trek. In recent years I’ve watched TOS, the original movies, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and I’m in the middle of Enterprise right now. I might consider myself more of a Trek fan now just because of how Disney has destroyed SW. I know paramount has done the same with modern ST, but I haven’t watched a frame of it, and I never will, so it will get to remain unruined. I wish I had known and done the same with Disney SW ahead of time.
     
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    Yeah, it's incredible. The Disney sequel trilogy is so bad, it made us realize how much of the prequels we took for granted. I also like how the prequels, flawed as they are, created a tableau from which the subsequent projects can pull. That is, for whatever reason, I always enjoy the callbacks to the prequels, even if I don't like the movie or show I'm watching. Like, I got super pumped for some reason when Jimmy Smits popped up unexpectedly as Bail Organa in Rogue One. I enjoyed Cassian flashing back to an incident with clone troopers on Ferrix in season 1 of Andor. And for as awful as (most of) Obi-Wan Kenobi was, I love that we have Ewan McGregor hanging around as young(er) Obi-Wan. And I also loved that damaged helmet scene at the end of Obi-Wan Kenobi, as it went a long way to bridging the gap between prequel Anakin and OT Darth Vader, which had previously seemed like too wide of a gulf to ever be crossed for me. But for as much as I have affection for the prequels, and great memories of seeing all of them in the theater (including with people that are no longer with us), The Empire Strikes Back is, beyond the context of Star Wars, just an all-time great movie that nothing post-OT can touch, in my opinion.
     
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    I’m in my early 30s and a big prequels fan. I am fully aware of and acknowledge there are a ton of problems with those movies. Bad acting, awkward dialogue, too much CGI, rushed plot lines, you name it. But I think the overarching plot is compelling and they get the Star Wars ethos right. I saw Revenge of the Sith in theaters for my 11th birthday, it’s one of my best childhood memories.

    I’m excited we’re a week away from Andor. The three episodes released at a time is going to be interesting. It’s kind of a bummer that the show will be down for good after just 4 weeks, but each of those 4 weeks is going to feel like a new movie came out.
     
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    This is the way
     
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    Yeah. Its such a well done show and it is nice to just like something from Star Wars with no caveats.
     
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    Episode 3 is a pretty solid number 2 for me in the series now.

    While not as good as the old stuff, I've actually enjoyed some of the new Star Trek stuff particularly Strange New Worlds. It's nice having some series out there written by people who don't openly despise the older work in a franchise.
     
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    That said, I'm quietly optimistic for Ahsoka Season 2.
     
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    Haven't watched the Andor episodes that came out yesterday yet, but the reviews from folks who have seen the whole season suggest its just as good or better than Season 1. Hopefully I'll have some time next weekend to watch all three that are out.
     
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    I watched the first three episodes of season 2 of Andor and greatly enjoyed them. A friend of mine who watched and reviewed all 12 episodes says season 2 is great, but more even than season one, with less of the highs and lows. That's how these first three 3 episodes of season 2 felt to me. They weren't as muted and slow as the first three episodes of season 1, but episode S2E3 didn't exactly end with a bang like S1E3 did. I'll wait till I'm confident more people are caught up before going into any specifics. But man, this show is so damn good.
     
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    Looking forward to checking it out. I may do like others and rewatch Season 1 as a refresher.
     

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