Game Debrief: What Went Right And What Went Wrong?

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  1. ElginTheGreat

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    I think the foot is definitely bothering AD.
     
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    Has JJ lost the locker room already?
     
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    Nope. Players owned this one and said it's on them. Bron is old and tired, probably not healthy. AD is hurt. AR is out. DLO is DLO. Knecht hit the rookie wall at Lamborghini speeds. Roster sucks. We knew it sucked. Rob did jack s***. Goal this season was not to drown before a trade. Guys are taking a blueish coloration from those waters. It's rough. 10 days to go. Check for a pulse.
     
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    We've been blown out by 30pts in two straight games. Thank God we played Utah and San Antonio, or this 8 game stretch, would be even worse. I don't care who owns what, this s*** is unacceptable.
     
  5. Zoyd Wheeler

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    Lakers lose in MIA 134-91 and it wasn't even that close. We are so sooooo bad right now. I almost can't believe how far we've fallen and how fast after that missed FT ORL loss.

    As bad as the Lakers offense is right now, the defense is far, far worse. Defense requires a team effort. I saw almost ZERO effort in one of the worst Laker losses I've ever seen. The MIA announcers were amazed how bad we were. AD routinely got beaten off the dribble for scores.

    The players said afterward that they're "embarrassed." Well, blow me down, says Popeye. I'm embarrassed to be a fan of this team right now.

    It's weird - and I don't how many others feel this way too - but after 3 mins I can tell if AD sucks or not. And when he sucks, he stays bad, usually, for the entire game. A few times he's come out and played a strong 2nd half. Tonight: he had a "I'mma take this shot but I don't think I'll make it" feel to his body language, and sure enough: 3 for 14; 8/7/5 in 31 mins for the once-and-probably-not-again-this-year MVP candidate. If Lebron retires after this year (and who among us thinks he shouldn't at this point?) I don't see AD as the leader of the team.

    What went right: after bricking his first 3 point attempt to make it 20 straight misses, Lebron hit one, then missed his next two. Tyler Herro says hello.

    As we fell down 14, then 22, then 36...I stopped watching the ball and instead watched individuals, and I had no idea DK's defense was that bad. But then, when no one else plays D, your teammates are gonna make you look pretty bad, inevitably. (Remember when we were quasi "good"? Good times. Times long gone.)

    “I hate losing,” Davis said. “The way we’re losing, we’re playing bad, blown out. I’m not playing well individually. It’s an accumulation of things and it’s frustrating. You want to play well. And obviously, me playing well helps the team, helps our guys. And I’m not playing well. It’s kind of tough on our team. And we just, defensively, a lot of breakdowns. And it’s on us. It’s on us players, to be honest.

    “We’re getting the schemes. The schemes are on point. But we just gotta go out and do it and execute ‘em.” (source)

    If any Lakers are reading this, I suggest that you all forego your salary for this game and give it to the poor. It was "Giving Tuesday" yesterday. Give until it hurts. It can't possibly hurt as much as it hurts to be a Laker fan right now.

    Lemme see: it's Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Giving Tuesday, Woeful Wednesday, Third-Rate Thursday, Felonious Friday...I guess what I'm tryna say is the Lakers have me in a nasty mood, they shat the bed and who the hell is gonna clean up? My gawd. Hug your loved ones, be thankful for your health, guys. I might have to take a leave of absence as a Laker fan after this one.
     
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    JJ aid after the game:
    "There has to be some ownership on the court, and I'll take all the ownership in the world. This is my team and I lead it and I'm embarrassed. But I can't physically get us organized. I can't physically be into the basketball. I can't physically talk and call out [switches] and physically call out coverages. ... And by the way, I'm not blaming players. It's not. I own this, but going to need some ownership on the court as well. ... There's not a sense from me that we're together right now."
    (source)

    I take a small amount of solace that at least we have a coach who owns the vile stench of the Lakers' performance; last year if we played really egregiously, Ham would tell the press "It's a long season." Ham would have never admitted to being embarrassed. (Neither would Brick, and that's a big part of why he's despised here by most.)
     
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    add sh*t face Saturday n sleep walking Sun
     
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    Getting your a** kicked repeatedly by 20 and 30 pts, doesn’t get absolved by "owning it". After awhile all of that talk, just comes off as being a different kind of blah,blah,blah. It will get old real quick, if we keep getting blown out and quitting on the court.
     
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    Cm on DUI boy ! FIX IT! You got this ! Pour yourself another glass and it’s all going to be good .
     
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    He never had it ! Nobody on that team respects this m0f !
     
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    Yea, yea, yea, the Heat had a franchise-record barrage of 24 3s, incl 7 from Herro in the 3rd Q, but you know what? We don't defend the 3 at all lately.

    Meanwhile we were 5 for 22 from the 3. No one hit more than one. And MIA does defend the 3. They actually play defense, and they came into this game 9-10 on the season.
     
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    That was just embarrassing.
     
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    Lakers are not a series franchises when they draft a guy ( who has no business being in the NBA) only for the sake of photo OP with his daddy . History was made ! A history that nobody gives a HOOT
    About but LeFraud & BSPN. And a HC with no experience and a drinking problem ! I guess having a DUI is not a big deal in the BUSS family.

    This popcorn is delicious watching drunk boy eat dust
     
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    If we aren’t going to be serious about upgrading this roster, just sit AD ever other night and call it a season.
    Rob and the FO failed bigtime this summer.
     
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    World peace defending the LAKERS BFC9C5AF-46C9-426F-9072-C44FC0B8FF5A.jpeg
     
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    he's going to need every bit of that dpoy energy, lol.

    i'm not as down as many, despite the awful current stretch (which is definitely awful). i want to see how we respond in the lead up to christmas.
     
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    We really have fallen from a cliff. It looks like the team just gave up. Stopped believing. My question is in who? JJ? Themselves?

    Last couple games it just feels like they gave up. Out of nowhere. Maybe behind the scenes they see AD struggling with his foot and have been watching Bron facing Father Time. If we see it in game, imagine in the backstage.
    And the feeling that both your stars are going down is indicative that we aren't winning a chip, so they just quit. It's championship or bust for them and maybe they believed before, during the 10-4 stretch and stopped doing so.
    And I think it probably started with both of them and spread to the rest of the team. Maybe they started talking differently or behaving differently and the team just switched off.

    I don't know but there was definitely a major change in attitude. A feel of defeat. Of not caring. A really big challenge for JJ to not let the season going down so prematurely
    It also just made any trade offer more expensive due to our perceived despair
     
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    We are more than one piece away IMO. I’m for holding on to our FRP unless it’s a star and I don’t see one walking through that door right now.
     
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    or their agents told them to brace for a trade, as happens every freaking year with us. i know they're all like "it's a business", but that's not how they act afterwards nor how they actually feel.

    rui and dlo know they're out of here the second we can find anything we like. it's hard to lace 'em up under those circumstances--not at this level, where tiny mistakes are exploited ruthlessly.
     
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