2022-23 Team Developments: News / Trades / Free Agents / Rumors

I’m banking on Ham demanding it. Neither was Russ and Walker, but I see signs of improvement.

 

I would take Cam for one of our guards and a second.
I would give up two Firsts for OG, because he’s the type of player that will always fetch a good return if you had to flip him in a few seasons. I just don’t think he moves the needle close enough to “Star!” For our FO to go for it.

 

i haven't followed closely enough to see why he fell out of favor there. looks like he started pretty strong, fell off a bit, had a nice 4-5 game stretch (around when that article came out) then sat for some reason and didn't really find his footing after returning. hasn't played since early december.

i looked at some lineup data, and it was interesting. grimes seems to have taken over reddish's spot in the rotation, but in the same spot, reddish actually does just as well or better (for example, as part of their rj/brunson/randle/robinson lineup). i'm guessing reddish/his agent put up a fuss about this, and thibs just decided to sit him. leon rose can't be happy about that, as the coach's decision (which may or may not have been that great to begin with) made you lose an asset (that 1st round pick was totally wasted now).

i think there's a very good chance reddish finishes the year with us. i think the reason nothing's happened is that we're still looking at bigger things.

 

That was in November. Do you wonder why Thibs doesn’t play him?

This is why Atlanta let him go:


[Cranjis] Cam Reddish’s defensive impact percentiles (via D-LEBRON). His defensive impact this season grades out the worst of any Wing Stopper over the last 8 seasons in our database.

 

not 2 1st tho

 

ad wouldnt last whole season no worries there

 

no, but that's the point of trades like this--foregoing some future value for present value.

to me, with draft picks, it's about when the cost is due. for example--with the AD trade, i was quite fine with giving up picks all the way out to 2025, as his prime as a superstar level player projected out past that. so there was the initial talent in the trade (which we got the better end of), and now there's the continued payments/maintenance. like buying a car maybe? throw some cash (current players down), get nicer new car (new player), and pay off the difference as time goes on. if you get mileage out of the player after you're done with the payments, that's great. if you don't, it's like a lease. if your car breaks down before you're done paying, you lost. if you go to re-sell the car at any point, it's likely you're taking a substantial loss. that has to be factored into all purchasing decisions of all cars, though. it's rare that one appreciates. this latter concept is what i think morey was trying to do when he was always churning the roster in houston, but it really only worked the one time and was largely a failure on the whole, imo.

tl;dr: you don't trade for a player concerned about what you'll get when you have to trade them later. it's likely much less than you paid and too hard to gauge.

 

if it's for nunn and a 2nd, what have you really lost? it's not like nunn's a defender. you get to give reddish one last shot at making a name for himself before he has to start taking lower-dollar contracts to prove himself. and his physical profile is right for us.

yes, i liked stan, too, but we can't have stan.

 

He suffered a bad ankle injury and played 49 games in 2021-2022, he came back and played through it but played with minutes chopped. You can see the massive difference in that season from others, that's sketchy usage of stats to prove a point to say the least.

 

If the trade is Nunn + 2nd, you get Cam Reddish tomorrow so you can balance out the roster a bit better.

However, if I'm the Lakers...I'm going after OG or Jerami Grant. For OG, you probably have to give up 2 unprotected 1sts.

For Jerami Grant, I think 1 unprotected 1st + Nunn/Bev would work. The blazers are losing a lot lately...and if that continues, I feel like they'll try to get something out of Jerami Grant before he walks this summer given they gave up a 2025 first round pick (via Bucks) to get him.

 

Grant solves a lot of the Lebron defensive issues problem. We can put Grant on the big guards, SF and PF...while Lebron gets to coast on the weakest offensive player on the floor.

Grant and AD have some intriguing possibilities in a zone type defensive scheme too. Great agility to go with the length.

I'd give up Bev, Walker and a FRP in a heartbeat. Hopefully we could dump Jones on them too with another 2nd rd pick as a sweetener.

 

The last I've seen on him is that he's expiring and hasn't signed an extension. I saw stuff saying that he was enjoying his time in Portland, but he said the same thing in Detroit. He also has listed winning as a top consideration in his upcoming FA. So...I still think Turner is more of a likely option at the moment, but it's the NBA, injuries can happen and change guy's perspective pretty quickly. There is also lot of cash for him on the table in Portland , if he declined the extension and resigned over the summer though. He's still on my wishlist until he signs on the dotted line.

 

Smush donning the stripes soon?

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/arti...player_to_return_as_referee/s1_13132_38341041

 

glad smush is doing well. guy got way too much hate because of all the kobe stuff and he wasn't even THAT bad in the couple seasons he played for the lakers

just don't let him ref any lakers games

 

B/R Staff Roundtable: What Should Lakers Do at the 2023 Trade Deadline?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...t-should-lakers-do-at-the-2023-trade-deadline

Four options and they give the case for each.

Here are the four paths they present, click the above link for the why.

1) Blockbuster: Myles Turner, Buddy Hield

Lakers Receive: Myles Turner, Buddy Hield

Pacers Receive: Russell Westbrook, 2027 first-round pick, 2029 first-round pick


2) Notable upgrade: Bojan Bogdanović, Alec Burks and Nerlens Noel

Lakers Receive: Bojan Bogdanović, Alec Burks and Nerlens Noel

Pistons Receive: 2027 unprotected 1st-round pick, 2023 second-round pick, Max Christie and Russell Westbrook (to be bought out)


3) Minor Upgrade: Josh Richardson

Lakers Receive: Josh Richardson

Spurs Receive: Patrick Beverley and a 2023 second-rounder (most favorable from the Lakers or Chicago)


4) Stand Pat: Lakers Shouldn't Trade Anything

 

He's been dissatisfied with minutes there and most likely vocal about it, Thibs is like Belichick in that respect and endorses the STFU policy with young players.
Anyways, Thibs prefers Quentin Grimes and when QG went out recently Thibs played Cam more (interesting since Grimes is a shooting guard) and when QG came back, Cam went out with a groin injury and during that time Grimes slightly cemented himself as a defender Thibs liked and preferred.

This is all 2nd hand info I came across, I've watched 1 1/2 Knicks games this season but it is weird as Cam no doubt is a better athlete and has a lot more size than Grimes. But you know, some guys rub a coach the right way.