Head Coach Discussion: Canned Ham, Who Is Our New Coach?

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  1. 432J

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    this guy is a f***ing clown. how low IQ do you have to be to keep this small ball b******* going despite the fact that your team continues to get dominated on the boards?

    vogel was a far better coach
     
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    There's a lot to like about Ham as a rookie coach. That's just it though, he's a rookie coach (I think he'll grow into a really good coach under right circumstances). You don't put a rook in this situation. Of the options, I liked the hire and still like the hire based on the pool. That's just it though, we flushed a top 6 head coach because we had to have a fall guy and the ink on Rob's extension was nearly dry so it sure as s*** wasn't going to be him. The Russ situation was one where you couldn't have both of them back the following season. We backed the wrong horse and Jeanie is too blind to realize Rob ain't the guy.
     
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    I was always saying from the start that this was a terrible hire for both sides, though I like Ham with how he can handle players like Brick.
     
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    I can't defend the Dennis-Bev-Russ combo.

    Yesterday we even got Russ-Dennis-Bev-Reaves-Lonnie. That's embarrassing
     
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    Yeah. I felt like we needed to give him the best line up we could and we didn’t. He doesn’t seem to know how to use the pieces he’s got and to an extent I get that. Can’t play all these guards at once though. No matter how bad some of the other guys look you just can’t.
     
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    he was playing with fire with the insta-double on doncic in the first half. when the mavs had hit 6 or seven threes nearly in a row was a good time to try something else. he did not. oh wait, he did try austin reaves at center, i guess?
     
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    When's Mt. Rambis going to finally BLOW and say f*** it with the non-meddling clause he had to agree to .... and start attending coaching meetings and jumping in Ham's s*** over this midget ball crap and give the edict to start Reaves and get Lonnie back to the type of play he was capable of early in the season prior to Schroeder finally arriving?
     
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    I criticized Frank a lot for going small too often, and for too long, deployment of random silly a** lineups, being slow to adjust to a team adjusting to his moves, and not seeming to have any real strategy at the end of games.(besides give it to Lebron).Darvin is doing a lot of the same exact stuff. SMH Idk..is it all related to " maximizing" Lebron?

    These things don't seem to be a problem with AD, besides the end of the game strategy.
     
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    How do you "maximize" Lebron by playing him with non shooting midgets?? It's just poor roster construction.
     
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    It's the same as last season and we had shooters
     
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    If the plan was to maximize Lebron you would get him 3 and D guys. This team has neither
     
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    this roster is what you get when you can only go to thrift store with additional clearance sale to shop at
     
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    Lol coaching decisions are so bizarre that we want Rambis to interfere!

    Jesus did they screw over Vogel
     
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    nah. honestly, vogel looks better and better with each loss. eventually, the fans here that bashed him will realize we didn't have it so bad, and that the problem was the russ trade and the absolute impossibility of digging out of that.

    vogel's future starting salary is being pumped up by the fact that he kept his cool under fire here, imo.
     
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    Whether people liked Vogel’s coaching or not, he was a class act. He never threw shade at anyone. Of course, he wants to get hired in the future by some other team so he had no choice but I still think that’s his personality.
     
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    either way, he played it perfectly. and i think he knew that he'd come out looking ok.

    btw, i don't think vogel is some great coach. much like i don't think rob is some great gm. i think both guys are/were competent at their job, and their failures weren't all theirs.

    replacing ham with <insert twitter's favorite coach> won't do anything, either.* he's playing reaves at center because his other options are jones or...troy brown? he's playing bevs and russ because if he doesn't, they'll turn on him and he'll lose the full locker room. it's impossible. much like trading out of our situation is impossible.

    *note that despite all the new plays and stuff, we still suck.
     
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    I agree some of Ham’s options aren’t good but he’s made some whack lineups as far as I’m concerned. He’s not going to make us good with the players we have but he can make us worse with some of the lineups he’s played.
     
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    definitely. i think he's done some good things from both a strategic standpoint and from a team-building standpoint. and i think he's made choices that involve sacrificing one for the other that none of us have much insight into. for example, if he abandons bev like i want him to, what's the effect on other players? what's bev's effect on other players? i'm willing to accept that ham might know things i don't in this regard.

    i also have a lot of appreciation for how difficult it has to be sharing a locker room with lebron. this is a living legend known for his hoop iq. how much can you disagree and survive? how much disagreement can the team take?

    i don't know. i've felt bad for each of our last three coaches (not byron, though). they've been asked to do things that nobody can do.
     
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    I’ve always felt like it was a shame that Vogel was the only person who paid any real price for the Russ trade.
     
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