Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

B/R's Greg Swartz with another AD trade suggestion.

Atlanta Hawks Receive: F/C Anthony Davis

Los Angeles Lakers Receive: F/C John Collins, C Onyeka Okongwu, G/F Justin Holiday, 2023 first-round pick (lottery-protected), 2024 first-round pick (lottery-protected, via Sacramento Kings)

Click the link to see the why
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ba-trades-that-could-happen-sooner-than-later

 

I don't need these numbers from AD every game but I would like to see the effort every game. Then we would have something to build on. It does have to start with one game though so maybe. Not a good idea to try to diss Wilt Chamberlain in an AD thread. He was twice the player AD ever was or will be.

 

3 for 1 trades (Plus future draft compensation) with a full roster might be a no go.

 

My favorite stat of AD's for the game:
3 pointers: 0-0
Let's keep it that way bud. Stay in your lane.

 

Ham wanted him to shoot, as many 3's as possible. Either he came back to his senses or AD told him to get lost.

 

yeah, not going for protections on those picks. nobody's allowing that from us, and we're not even asking for a superstar. reject.

not sure where you got that--i'm pointing out that literally the only player that did what everyone expects AD to do did so 50 years ago. nobody does this.

in shaq's best year ever, when he was 27, he put up 29 and 13. he put up 27 and 11 the next couple of years, then went down to 20 and 10 in the miami years.

kg's best year, age 27, 24 and 14.

tim duncan's best, age 25, 26 and 13.

i already put up dirk's numbers.

people have a warped sense of when and what kind of numbers bigs put up in the modern nba. even generational talents. AD put up 28 and 12 when he was 24, then moved into a lower usage role, then got hurt. otherwise, he kinda looks like other generational talents in a lot of ways.

at age 29, AD is currently at 24 and 11. td was at 19/11, kg 22/13, shaq 27/11, dirk 24/9.

the expectations are wildly miscalibrated.

yeah, i think it's been quite clear that coaches have been asking AD to shoot threes. it reminds me of when coaches were asking pau to shoot threes around the same career stage, and it just wasn't working (note that pau eventually got decent at low-volume threes, as i think AD can--it's just not where his skills lie).

 

I agree expectations are crazy. Numbers alone don't mean much to me. I want constant effort and to come up big in big moments. My interpretation of your comment about Chamberlain playing against plumbers was that his numbers were inflated due to bad competition. He played against many HOF centers and against Bill Russell often. Wilt was just a different kind of cat.

 

wilt was a freak of nature athletically. easily one of the greatest athletes of all time. there are only a few guys from back in the day who i would confidently say could still dominate in today's NBA and wilt is one of them

 

The AD I want to see is the one that is the AD who is completely frightening on defense. The one that is in constant roaming mode, knocking back 4 blocks a game and being a presence on every single attempt at the rim. When he plays like that the Lakers are a completely different animal and if you combine it with an active Lebron, as in active on D and getting those assist numbers back up to 10 a game like the bubble year then we are making our presence known and only then. The rest of the roster gets an automatic increase in rating because this situation makes them all look better. That's the truth plain and simple.

 

If I remember right he never fouled out of a game. The guy was from another planet. 55 rebounds in one game against the C Bags almost seems like a mis print...lol.

 

20+ years retired Wilt makes Patrick Ewing and Shaquille O'Neal look like relatively small and skinny players.

The guy really was a Goliath. He had strength, agility and even some really good basketball sense.

 

wilt was still getting offers to play in the NBA well into his 50s

i think that says it all

 

yes, again. wilt's like paul bunyan. which is why using him as the measuring stick is ludicrous.