Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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  1. ZenMaster

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    He is a great player when healthy and engaged. Thing is -- this happens not often enough for my liking.

    The reason is not important. He falls, stumbles, teammates roll into his knees or goddamn ceiling falls onto him. He's fragile. And quite lazy too, as I haven't seen an ounce of evidence of him trying to address it in any way. Look at Kawhi. He tried. Not sure what bulking up would do for his half-calcified knees, but he's done something.

    AD went to drink beer with the lethal chocker and sat on his a** all summer, despite not exactly working hard all season.

    This combination of fragility and laziness is not a great recipe for longevity. So we might as well get off of the AD train while we still can.

    I really don't understand how this is a controversial take.

    Side note: it's Dr. Glass for you.
     
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    I’m all in on trading AD.
    It’s not personal, it’s business and it’s better for the future success of the Franchise.
    He’s not an alpha, so he won’t be able to lead the team when LeBronze bounces.
    Maybe he will prove us all wrong and this will be the only time this season he gets hurt? We all would love that. We just can’t count on him not missing significant time throughout the season. We have seen it over and over and over again now. He barely played in the pre season games because he was injured- from the grueling off season.
    Don’t worry, our brilliant Front Office will hold on to him up until the point that LeGM says he’s not coming back. Then, we’ll be trading him with zero leverage and get a subpar return.
     
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  3. KareemtheGreat33

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    Anthony “Beta Max” Davis…he is beta and earning the max:Kobe Snickering:
     
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    Oh man.
    :Laugh:
     
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    AD has Alpha+ level talent, but Omega- Level durability. I have never watched a player before that I expected to get banged up every single game.
     
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    case rested.

    hope folks enjoy the post-AD years, in which we have plenty of healthy s***ty players, 11th place is a good year, we throw maxes at myles turner types only to have them join the hornets or something, and we try to convince ourselves that kuzma-level players will become perennial allstars.

    it was so much fun the first time.
     
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    :Laugh:We finished 11th last season
     
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    I get the concern with AD.

    But I honestly don't come in here as much because I know how it gets.

    Just having fun with the meme.

    :)
     
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    think you missed the point?
     
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    Trading AD is just plain foolish and there’s a reason why any front office executive would never even consider it.

    Your whole goal of drafting and trading for players is to get an AD level guy.

    I don’t get why the lakers fan base gets so toxic.
     
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    Coming from a guy who wanted to extend WB for 4 years.

    And your boy can't play at Staples. He's too mentally fragile.

    Weeeeeeeee
     
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    At the beginning of last year I said I’d consider offering a 3 year 20 per contract so we could sign more players this off-season. Then he played terrible and I didn’t mention it again. I believe abeer said something similar as well?

    But for some reason he’s my boy? As far as I’m concerned Westbrook is playing terrible and if he doesn’t come up to scratch quickly he can sit his a** at home.

    There’s a weird group of people who want to trade our picks for lousy packages that won’t make us a contender and will lose all optionality for the rest of the decade. And there’s now another subset who want to trade AD. To me it’s just bad decision making.
     
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    He wasn't terrible the first game statistically. He just limited us in what we can do offensively, which doesn't help.

    Last game, was putrid offensively.

    On topic, AD has been very good. Just need to watch him.
     
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    I can actually walk AND chew gum at the same time.

    I am an AD fan, I see his talent, and will always appreciate the Ring. He remains the best defender we have had since prime Kobe, and is capable on any given night of going off for 40. I don't want to trade him.

    But his durability has been, is, and seems like it will remain an issue. The old "availability is the best ability" thing for sure applies here. He says he wants to play 70+ games this year. Our only chance for success this year is if he can fulfill that desire. If you forced me to put money on it though I would have to bet the under.
     
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    who's the guy who if you get 82 games of them is worth 65 games of AD? i'm curious as to what people volunteer here.
     
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    I see AD in this way. He is a top ten talent at least maybe top five. His durability and availability will always be a question mark. Those things kind of balance out. What I don't see from him is that burning desire to be the best that the best have. You see the all time greats Kobe, MJ, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Curry, you aren't left wondering. I at least want to see the level of caring he had in the bubble. His mega talent alone just isn't enough.
     
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    i can agree here. he doesn't want to be an all-time great, and he's not particularly durable (though i'd argue lots of players that nobody talks about being fragile have similar career injury histories or worse).

    none of that justifies most of what goes on in this thread nor supports the idea that trading him for lesser, healthier players would help the franchise in any way.
     
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    Not trading him now and trying to get rid of him Brick style in 2 years won't help the franchise either. We are not winning crap with Bron. That ship has sailed. Might as well cut our losses.

    Of course, we won't be able to do any of that while Bron is here... so it's moot.
     
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    Ok. Who are we trading him for?

    Name the players.

    Amd if you say picks, I question your authenticity. Because I and a few others here were the only ones leading the tank brigade early and often and had to go through those dreadful f****** seasons.

    I had therealdeal debate that Byron Scott was a legitimate coach instead of just a Kobe babysitter and a mercenary.

    So, let us hear it, armchair GMs.

    No rebuttals. Just give me the trade packages.
     

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