Russell Westbrick Discussion: Clipper Gonna Clip

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  1. TIME

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    I knew he would be a bad fit, but I did not anticipate that he would play as bad as he did. I thought Vogel would be able to get him to make at least a halfhearted effort at playing D. I thought he would at least be able to hit the rim on his shots. I thought that we might get a late season burst from him like he showed in Washington. Nope, nope and nope.
     
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    I did not. I actually was most upset over his unwillingness to play any kind of professional level defense. Well, his countless unforced turnovers and shots off the top of the backboard were the most surprising.
     
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    We would have sucked last season with Schroder, KCP Kuzma and Caruso too. Just like we did the season prior IMO. Still Russ could have been better.
     
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    Nah Schroder, KCP, Kuzma and Caruso had us playing 500 ball even without Lebron and AD. Russ couldn't get us to 500 with 1 of them in the lineup... Obviously we can't win without those guys healthy, but we were shockingly bad with Russ.
     
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    not good shooter, high usage pg with questionable iq who cares more bout stats than win, not sure why anyone thought it was gona work besides the 2 jabronis forcing Robs hand
     
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    No..that's revisionist history. Lebron played in the first 42 games that season. AD went down after game 27. We were 21-6 at that point. We proceeded to go 16-24 and needed to win 5 straight games at the end of the season just to make the playin game. AD played in the last 14 games of that season, Lebron played in 4 of the last 10. That team was just mediocre at best. Even with all those guys, plus Trez, Gasol,Kief, and Drummond. That or Frank Vogel was just a very mediocre coach. The talent should have been there, nobody was injured besides Lebron and AD most of the season.
     
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    What are your thoughts on this though?

    Lebron, AD, Schroeder: +12 nrtg
    Lebron, AD, Russ: -3 nrtg
     
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    Ok..and like Vogel said..sometimes stats and analytics don't mean s***, without the context of what else was going on at the time.
     
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    I didn't think he'd be that bad. I definitely didn't think we would miss the play in.
     
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    Agreed on all counts.
     
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    Okay if Russ is still on this team and things don't go well this year when Lebron and AD are healthy, I want you to explain yourself. :ADnaughty:
     
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    I'd love to see Lebron and AD healthy, if we still suck with Russ..I will be the first one to call him out and agree with the crowd. I need to actually see it happen first though.
     
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    I thought he was going to bring that passion and fire he’s known for, plus being back in LA… didn’t expect him to bring such a bad attitude and lack of accountability. That bothers me more than the bad play
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Here we go again. Spin up the record player and place that ole’ broken record on the turntable…
     
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    I think what blinded me was not watching Russ the past few seasons. With limited time I have only watched the Lakers. I was shocked at how bad he was.
     
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    He had a good regular season in Washington but when I watched Washington vs 76ers in the playoffs I became concerned that it was over for him as a playoff-caliber player. 76ers just sagged off of him and when it wasn't a fast break the Wizards couldn't generate any offense.

    I figured like against the Lakers he would be a disaster in the playoffs but I was surprised how bad he was in the regular season. FIgured teams wouldn't care that much to gameplan for him and the Lakers would be fine taking minutes away from Lebron/AD. Also I had hopes for him as Bruce Brown type with AD/Lebron: a guy who could set screens and be in the dunker spot. But he simply doesn't play defense like Brown or Draymond to work and his "playmaking" causes as much as TO as assists. Throw in teams could always just keep a big on him and that ruined that wrinkle I had hoped would work
     
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    Russ was terrible but also the Lakers last year was also not the Bubble Lakers.
    Think of it as a double whammy: he was bad and the Lakers to get him had a significantly worse supporting cast.

    Westbrook on a team with Kuzma/Caruso/KCP and another center wouldn't have looked as bad. (god it hurts saying anything remotely positive about him as a basketball player)
     
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    There is an alternative...lol
     
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    This wasn’t directed at you. Carry on.
     
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