Lakers - Kings- Trade Very Unlikely; Both Teams Focused On Draft

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  1. EJones06

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    Here's betting George Karl has no woman no cry on repeat.
     
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    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh Karl has definitely been a jerk in all this, I'm not defending him. Trying to trade your best player without talking to him? Weak ****, George! I'm just saying that there's a lot more to this than Karl being a jerk. This is a huge, huge mess that's been brought around by weak and ineffectual management.
     
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    OK I get how you feel about the Kings front office too. I've read some of that stuff too so I know it's true.

    But if their reputation is irreparable as it is, and if they are as imcompetent as you say they are, what makes you think they'd care about the nail in the coffin? Are you expecting them to become competent all of a sudden? Firing Karl would be like a mosquito bite to their reputation.
     
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    To me it's the edge of the precipice. If you fire Karl, that's it for that front office. They're officially done as a serious entity in the NBA. Nobody will trade reasonably with them, good coaches won't come near them if there's any other options, and players won't sign there.

    They're already in a rough spot. The way they handle this Cousins situation will make or break this franchise for the next five years.
     
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    OK so I guess it's your belief that trading Cousins is a softer landing for the franchise, even if it means less wins for them for those 5 years. I disagree but it's OK because it probably won't affect us. We're too good to get involved with their BS.
     
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    If this take has already been stated - I am sorry, jumping in here at the end to post before it all goes down (or does not).

    I think we have to set aside all the 'trade lies' and focus on facts.

    1. Sacto is building a new arena.
    2. Sacto has new management.
    3. Boogie wants out of Sacto.
    4. Sacto has both a PR nightmare and a management dilemma on their hands and wants to move forward but maintain credibility with the fans.

    How do they solve it?

    1. Say they are not trading their only true star.
    2. Privately call up teams like LA, Boston and others and say ' what are you offering'
    3. When reports surface - blame it on their new head coach.
    4. Actively work the phones to try and find something that they can sell to their fans and put people into the new arena to watch the Kings.

    John Black would be proud.

    Mitch is not so dumb as to trade away too many assets for a favorable contract with a desparate team. Boston might be. Orlando might be.

    SO the lakers listen - make their pitch (a deal we would all say is a steal and if Sacto says no - back to drafting Okafor and waiting to see if Sacto makes a move pre-draft).

    I'd be shocked to see Thomas, Olynick and picks for Boogie work for them. I think it takes Smart, Vujacic from ORL, and picks (which is still too high and why there were likely three team talks being started).

    In the end - I think Boogie stays where he is this year and that gives management an ability to not seem desparate and then fire Karl if things don't work out with their superstar or trade Boogie if he melts down on Karl (as the fans will turn on him).
     
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    For the love of all things Holy, do not give up Randle to Cousins. If the #2 is not enough, the Kings can fly a got damn kite.
     
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    Sounds like Lakers PR is gauging 'fan reaction' before deciding what to do. But I agree with Doc. We don't give up Randle, Clarkson and the most we put out there is No. 2 and 27 and ask for Boogie's treating therapist to give us a call and access to records before we even consider a move.
     
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    Second picks which likely is okakor and Randle for cousins? Fuuuuuuuuu@$ no. Lakers do that trade and they will set themselves back for another decade. Has anybody actually said around the league, "hey I wanna be teammates with cousins"
     
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    Randle + 2nd won't happen unless we get Gay as well as Cousins + 6th. We don't get screwed in trades, we either get the better side, or it looks even. I don't think that deal goes down unless we get a lot more than just Cousins.

    In Mitch we trust
     
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    Mitch, stop toying with their organization. It's just cruel now. All remaining hope that s***ty organization is about to be flushed down the toilet when Mitch reveals Ashton Kutcher and the camera crew.
     
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    That's what I am thinking. There will some moving parts to this trade. It might even involve our draft picks #27 and #34.
     
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    Ah crap, not again.

    I'm staying out of this thread. There's absolutely no good in here.
     
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    Yeah, but let me be clear... I want no part of this.

    I just trust that if it does go down, it will be because we get the better of that trade.
     
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    I am really scared. These rumors just won't die.
     
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    Unpossibl1,

    You need to write an article up about the mistake it would be to trade #2 and CERTAINLY #2 and Randle for Boogie. Link to this thread for fan reaction. Maybe the Lakers see it. :D
     
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    I don't think there's any chance we trade Randle AND the #2 for just Cousins... I'm willing to be patient and hear what else we get, but if we move Randle AND #2 for just Cousins we lose the trade by a country mile. No reason to do that. Bresnahan is typically plugged in, but he's the only one saying this and he's a day late...

    Hm.
     
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    Real, I don't do that deal but is it really a loss?

    You have 2 guys who aren't proven in the league neither by skill nor health, for a bonafide all-star on the right side of 25.

    I'd highly consider this deal:

    Randle + #2 for Cousins + #6
     
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    I am defintly interested in this trade...
    It just depends what players we are talking about...
    If we could get boogie qnd #6 in 3 team trade,for just our #2 pick...i would do that in the heartbeat...
    I may even include randle if we can get some other players or pick from other team...
    But no way i would give our pick,randle and clarkson in any scenario.
    I think boogie is one of the better players in the league,and i dont worry about his attitude,couse i think he would mature in la,couse we are real franchise,not like that cowtown,plus he is just entering in his prime,he has stil 6-7 top years...plus his contract is not bad at.all.
    But most important is that we are in driver position,i think in good situation he would be a real upgrade...
    But even if we dont make that trade,we shouldnt panick,couse we are still in veeeerrry good position and there is no need to gut our team...the presurre should be on them and not on us...so,i have faith in mitch,he will do the best thing for us.
     
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    I have almost no interest in that trade for one simple reason: Cousins is on his way out already. Why are we giving up TWO of our very rare prime assets for Cousins and the #6 when he's already leaving? There's basically no way that Sacramento makes this work. Cousins is going to need to be traded. So why are we helped a division rival get rid of him?

    If they HAVE to trade him, we low ball them. I'm not giving up more than ONE of our prime assets (#2, Clarkson, Randle) for Cousins and even then I want something else in return.

    That's not even mentioning the fact that the Kings don't want to trade him and if they did trade him, they don't want our assets they want proven vets to get competitive.

    Cousins is probably going to Denver.
     

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