Russell Westbrick Discussion: Clipper Gonna Clip

Discussion in 'NBA Discussion' started by LaVarBallsDad, Jul 29, 2021.

  1. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,587
    Likes Received:
    60,808
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Best article about the Lakers Mona’s written in forever, especially since being shut out. Apparently she’s getting some access again … or … she’s written a better piece than those in her circles who got the insider leaks originally from Handy (still my pick / seriously doubt it was Vogel), maybe Russ’s brother (the hard to believe account coaching staff went all in on maxing LeBron’s game and leaving Russ to figure things out for himself) (and possibly “him feeling like he was getting singled out in team meetings” [though that might have been Handy too, along with the nugget the staff had considered the radical move of benching him to make a point for weeks]).

    Am happy to hear what I’ve been hoping that LeBron has been continually having the talks with him constructively and I’d expect those will be getting more intense (note him slamming the ball down in disgust after Russ killing their last hope with time running out in the Miami game with the reckless balls out full court drive in traffic and losing the ball. Also glad to hear Pelinka had a two hour heart to heart with him after arriving in Orlando and that Vogel has had multiple sessions with him. I think from what we see that all of it is starting to get through that thick skull of his as evidenced with the much better play warts and all and remain optimistic with the caveat always of key players (ALL of them now from the only 9-10 we have) staying healthy and getting Nunn back and gelling at the 11th hour going into the playoffs. Puncher’s chance.

    Thanks Mona. :rock:
     
    abeer3 and JSM like this.
  2. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,195
    Likes Received:
    70,357
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Few things stood out to me from Ramona's piece...
    -Rob had a 2 hour meeting with Russ in ORL
    -Vogel and the players are still in constant communication with him. Trying to make this work.
    - Russ was going to talk the the media after the Indy game, but our PR team told him to skip it
    - Lakers aren't expecting much at the trade deadline
     
  3. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,340
    Likes Received:
    76,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i'd add to it that people inside the organization seemed surprised by a) russ and a center not working and b) our defense suffering after moving kcp and eagle.

    i mean, many of us were concerned about those exact things coming into the season.
     
  4. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,735
    Likes Received:
    31,937
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    Letting go of AC Fresh was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back this season. That did NOT work. They should have kept him. KCP was the main cost of the Westbrook trade. You gain at PG but you lose a valuable two way SG in the process. You could get away with it to some extent with AB who isn’t quite the scorer or defender as KCP but does enough of both to hold it down.

    But we are really missing Caruso. When Russ isn’t working you just sub AC in and viola, perfect backup who works great with Lebron or without him, knows the team and system and does exactly what we need.

    The FO were penny wise pound foolish re AC. They should have split the money between him and THT, two years apiece. Now we are stuck with THT who hasn’t improved and no AC. Or even just bit the bullet and paid them both for longer instead of saying “we are all in” publicly and then going cheap when it mattered. The FO knew we would all be pissed when we let AC walk for nothing and we are. Biggest mistake of the off-season by a mile. To me much bigger than trading for Westbrook.
     
    alam1108, Kenzo, Pioneer10 and 5 others like this.
  5. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,587
    Likes Received:
    60,808
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    :SadPau2: … meh he’s injury prone and now out again with a broken wrist. Same thing as AD. ;)
     
    ElginTheGreat and lakerjones like this.
  6. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,735
    Likes Received:
    31,937
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    That was such a cheap shot by Allen. And only one game suspension? I feel bad for AC who loses 6 to 8 weeks. That sucks.
     
  7. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,587
    Likes Received:
    60,808
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    I’m honestly amazed players don’t get broken necks and die / or are paralyzed or far more severely injured than typically happens …. more often than they rupture achilles tendons with the heights their prone bodies fall from and how they land. Yikes!!!
     
  8. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,738
    Likes Received:
    7,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Caruso avg 20 minutes a game. Yet the defense somehow revolved around his presence? Big reach on that one.
     
  9. NickthaQuick

    NickthaQuick - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2021
    Messages:
    1,610
    Likes Received:
    4,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  10. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,738
    Likes Received:
    7,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The football player? LOL..SMH
     
  11. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,587
    Likes Received:
    60,808
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    ^^^ I don’t know who he is but I like the second reply down, “People just saying s*** now, to say s*** now lol”
     
    ElginTheGreat and Slick2021 like this.
  12. Casual+

    Casual+ - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2021
    Messages:
    157
    Likes Received:
    337
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Offline
    Pete on the LFR pod today

    "It's a three sta.... it's a three max build"

    lol ouch
     
    alam1108, Weezy, Juronimo and 3 others like this.
  13. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Personally? I love all the Russ slander.
     
    sirronstuff likes this.
  14. TIME

    TIME Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,803
    Likes Received:
    22,723
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Lifelong Lakers fan.
    Location:
    LaLa Land
    Offline
    Slow on the uptake. I knew it was a bad fit before they made the trade.
     
    Pioneer10 and abeer3 like this.
  15. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    28,340
    Likes Received:
    76,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    i don't love it because it's not productive right now. he doesn't respond to it.

    i think windhorst's insight was the most important, and something i argued last week: if he can't make it work here, literally nobody will want him. career is over. i think eventually, he'll see that like melo did. hopefully, he sees it sooner than melo did.
     
    TIME, Cookie, ElginTheGreat and 2 others like this.
  16. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Just meant for my enjoyment.

    But point we taken and well said as always.
     
    TIME and abeer3 like this.
  17. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,735
    Likes Received:
    31,937
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    Too many turnovers but still a pretty solid game out there.
     
    Cookie likes this.
  18. NickthaQuick

    NickthaQuick - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2021
    Messages:
    1,610
    Likes Received:
    4,321
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    This is the best it gets for him offensively. Just gotta limit the turnovers.

    Still, it's a bummer he needs 14 shots to only end up with 15 points.
     
  19. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,048
    Likes Received:
    13,704
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The bar is set so low that this is considered a good game. Brooklyn w/o Durant and Irving are just not a good team

    Against a good team, I just don't know want this guy anywhere on the court for long stretches. Lakers controlling the game with 10 seconds and the last shot to end the half: TO leads to an easy layup the other end: potential 4 or 5 point switch right there. Then in the second half before he made some buckets again TO's in bad spot leads to Nets bucket and then a 3 pointer that missed so bad it might have been a to and led to another easy bucket the other way. I mean that was the only real point that Nets were within striking distance all due to one guy
     
  20. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2021
    Messages:
    8,738
    Likes Received:
    7,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    As long as AD and Lebron stay healthy...folks are going to be complaining about Russ, all the way to the Finals.
     
    LTLakerFan, svtzr and sirronstuff like this.

Share This Page