Head Coach Frank Vogel Discussion: The Fall Guy

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  1. Khmrp

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    when you say yrs of data, you mean just as a lakers hc? cause he sucked as an Orl hc n once indy lost some talent he wasnt very good
     
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    what are you so excited about?

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    newbie!

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    I keed. Nice to see some positivity during trying times.
     
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    orlando's a talent-less cesspool. he overachieved in indy and won a title here. his resume is better than most active coaches, tbh.
     
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    He’s still very much in the hot seat media wise at least. If we lose by a lot tonight to the hated ones the pitchforks might come out at Staples.
     
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    if we lose at home to boston, i'm guessing he'll be fired cuz dosomething. it won't help, and i think the FO knows it, too. they just can't fire themselves and have no trade assets.
     
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    Sometimes teams need a different voice or a smack upside the head, and some coaches unfairly pay the price.

    but hey, Luke Walton is available, so it’s not like there aren’t top shelf coaches waiting in the wings.

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    so is coach Bud, he was on the hot seat had it not been for Giannis going super sayian and as far as Orlando goes same team went to playoff with Clifford so to say his failure there was due to lacking talent is a brush off of his incompetence implementing....he rode on pg/hibbert accession just like he did to the chip here n ad/bron talent. i recall Vogel addressing his inadequacy and what he learned post Orl stint but apparently hes learned nothing when it comes to utilizing talents
     
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    If the game is competitive I think he stays but if we get blown out on home court, Vogel is gone.
     
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    Then you can start harping on Fizdale. Can’t wait.
     
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    I can't believe this is the sentiment so early this season with so many injuries. I hope the Lakers don't become a knee jerk organization.

    What if we are actually missing Jason Kidd? That's a wow.
     
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    This confirms it, Frank is a moron



    Bradley AND THT? WHY?! I’m not even sure I want to watch
     
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    THT should not start. Not because he isn't good, but because starting him with Russ & Bron is redundant.

    Next, Bradley should not start either. It's probably better to start him without DJ, I'll give Vogel that; otherwise... I think he can do better than this. What's wrong with Ellington and Reaves?
     
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    Bradley is the hill Frank is willing to die on apparently
     
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    Wouldn't it be something if AB outlasted Vogel and part of the reason he gets canned is being hell bent on playing Bradley. Hoping Vogel sticks, but just saw some potential irony here.
     
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    That would be wild. I could see it playing out like that if we don’t go on some kind of run.
     
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    I am still so frustrated at the decision to not only start THT, but pair him with a player like Bradley who can not dependably space the floor.

    I’ll eat crow though because that lineup locked things down in the third quarter. But man it just feels like it would make so much more sense to throw Ellington in there.
     
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    Especially when you see Bron set him up perfectly for a couple 3s later in the game. I thought Wayne had a few good defensive sequences too. You have to have a shooter out there to space the court. Bron can't be your best 3 point shooter on the floor. It worked tonight, but most of the season his 3 ball has been lacking. With that lineup, Russ is your 2nd best 3 point shooter. Even him shooting it better lately, the whole thing reminds me of...

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    Vogel’s rotations have always been the most frustrating thing about him since hes been here. Once the roster is healthy I hope he figures out a set rotation instead of constantly experimenting with different combinations. We need to start developing chemistry on the court
     
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    I love Frank, but starting Russ, THT and Bradley? C’mon man.
     
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