Dennis Schröder Discussion: Raptor

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  1. OX1947

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    I don’t see Trez coming back next year, I’d spend 40 million on Schroeder/THT/Caruso, all of them have trade value and could be moved for tax purposes if for some reason we really needed it.
     
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    seems a little too early to determine who we'll keep, but I doubt we can keep everyone. But Rob has proven he has plans A, B, C and D to replenish talent at a reasonable price. I think they will potentially all get offers, but doubt they all accept their offers.
     
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    If Lakers win back-to-back, I would not be surprised if guys like DeRozan take a discount to play for the Lakers. Lakers are the best team for title chasing veterans right now so plenty of great deals to be had. I don't mind if the Lakers don't re-sign Schroder, Trezz, or Marc Gasol next season because there are plenty of other options. As long as the Lakers keep: AD, Bron, Caruso, KCP, THT, and Jared Dudley, I think they can get the necessary pieces to fill out the roster.
     
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    Dennis was brought in as a future building block. I don't see anyway we let him go unless he just decides he doesn't want to play here. AD/Schroder/THT (unless he's traded for Beal) is the future core for after Lebron. I could see everyone else being let go at some point.
     
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    Why would you not care whether or not Schroder comes back? He adds a whole other dimension to our team that most other teams have. Not easy to just pick up a ring chaser in his prime with Dennis’s skills and speed.
     
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    Have to have him back. He is perfect with this team. Lakers could live without Trez but his energy is really good. Caruso and THT will likely not get huge contracts but still would get a nice bump the Lakers can afford.
     
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    Because I think we could get DeRozan on the cheap. He's an LA native and has been speaking highly of the Lakers... He's at the end of his career and won't have another opportunity like this.
     
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    Schroder should have accepted the extension the Lakers offered him in the beginning of the year

    January 2021, 9 games, 31.6 mins, 12.1 pts, 3.6 rebs, 4.6 assists, 2.0 TOs, 1.2 stls, 36% FG, 31% from 3.

    He has given us above average defense and full court pressing but AC and THT can put up those numbers for half the price that Dennis wants. He was never a third star.

    AC is hitting his 3 ball and THT improving at 20 years old, Schroder might be too expensive to retain.

    We have a 7 game roadtrip coming up after Mondays home game, its a good test to evaluate Dennis before playoffs


    https://lakersnation.com/lakers-rum...d-two-year-contract-extension/2020/12/27/amp/
     
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    ah, i hadn't paid attention closely enough: it makes sense for him to wait on the possibility of that 4 year offer. most teams with money to spend have pgs, but dallas, the knicks, and the bulls all project to have something near 20 million (or much more) and don't have entrenched or young prospect pgs (unless you count doncic as a pg, but he can play with schroder).

    his agent (and the lakers) have to calculate the odds that he gets something that offers more than 20 per on average for 4 years. i wonder if they'll offer him 3/55-60 and see if he blinks. that's a lot of scratch to turn down.
     
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    If we win another ring this year, I say pay the tax and sign them all. We would then have a shot at 3 in a row. Gotta go for that, after that, I think Lebron thinks about retiring and everything changes.
     
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    We can re-sign two of our youngins + sign a veteran guard for the price Schroder wants. Basically 3 players to retain 1 Schroder. We'll see if he can be that productive

    Lebron is retiring after he plays 1 year with his son Bronny btw
     
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    there's basically no way to avoid massive luxury tax without losing players, but obviously i agree with wino that when you're a title team, you just do it for that period of time. there are ways to structure some of these deals so that there are ways to reduce salary if things don't go well (e.g., major injury to star, etc.).

    for example, if THT gets a poison pill max offer, we can try to convince schroder to take a big two year deal so that those two salaries aren't high at the same time. stuff like that.
     
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    I get that. That short term 3 year $60 mil may be a healthy compromise but DS wants a big payday. Also considering AC, THT give us almost the production he gives , might make the Lakers reluctant to tie a ton of money into 1 guy. We'll see how it pans out. Roadtrip is coming up and Feb. 16 is an important date to look out for.
     
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    Our best bet is to re-sign every guy we can and worry about flipping 1 or 2 for future draft picks if need be. A 4 man guard core of Dennis/KCP/AC/THT would be pretty awesome to lock up for a few years.
     
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    Young really talented and potential to get MUCH better is hard to come by. We came by it from going through really hard times and giving up a great lot of young going to be really talented players already. Bite the bullet creatively for a few years of this run at the top again with the luxury tax and lock these guys up. No Lakers goggles ... they’re really good and play both sides of the ball.
     
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    After LeBron we will need an all-star guard. I think Dennis will not be a Laker for many years
     
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    If the Lakers win it this year, keeping that guard set up prolongs Lebron's prime. So, that's the reality. The longer Lebron stays in his prime, the more Laker titles.
     
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    They'll lock up DS. He wants to be here and he's loving it so far. He already said if the numbers are fair, he'll sign because he definitely wants to continue here. We'll see of course what Rob's version and what he and his agent's is in terms of "fairness." As mentioned, we'll find out after Feb. 15th. I do believe that both sides want to make it work out. AD seems to like Schroder and that bodes well.
     
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    and that's exactly why you re-sign him. Any contract 3 yrs or less is tradeable. So if Dennis ends up with 3 yrs $60M, he'll either earn this through his play or someone will trade for that since it's not long term. It's the 4 and 5 year contracts on unproven or older guys that will kill teams.
     
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