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I’m torn. I agree with Ox that they aren’t worth our time but I do get such joy out of seeing them suffer in this thread.

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I’m torn. I agree with Ox that they aren’t worth our time but I do get such joy out of seeing them suffer in this thread.
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Take heart a new Clippers failure thread will be coming by the end of next season

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Not sure how I feel about Harrell signing yet, but it does bring me joy that Pat Bev doesn't like it.

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Ibaka is a good signing for them..

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we got joachim!

why nba players shouldn't be gms.

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"We got no leader" .... still. But we got Ty Lue. Woooo.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/granderson-clippers-needed-floor-general-003143335.html

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Such a bad look for an organization to allow this kind of s***...I love it!

Another piece leaking a lot of negatives from the Clipps last season and their roster hierarchy. This one from Jovan Buha with The Athletic
https://theathletic.com/2222210/?source=twitterhq

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Before every Clippers game last season, the team’s training staff would honor Kawhi Leonard’s request and create a private space for his pregame routine.

The staffers would enter and take over that space for roughly 20 to 45 minutes, according to multiple team and league sources. On the road, there were occasions when the space they occupied was the female staffers’ locker room. That also happened sometimes before a doubleheader at Staples Center when the changing of the court limited the availability of the Los Angeles Kings’ locker room, where Leonard normally warmed up privately.

Various Clippers players, coaches and staffers were aware of the arrangement and some felt uneasy about it. While there appeared to be no sexist intent, the visual of women staffers being unable to use their locker room to use the bathroom, to change clothes or to access their personal belongings while Leonard stretched did not go unnoticed. At least one player mentioned it to a confidant and at least one staffer complained about it to coworkers. It was an awkward arrangement, but drawing too much attention to it risked being seen as going against Leonard, the team’s unquestioned star, in the eyes of the organization.
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But according to multiple league sources, the perks the Clippers gave Leonard and George began to compromise the standard of the culture they had built over the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons — the very culture that the Clippers used, in part, to attract Leonard and George to Los Angeles.

Some of those perks included:

• Leonard and George were the only players to have their own personal security guards and trainers.

• Leonard and George had power over the team’s practice and travel schedule, leading teammates to believe Leonard canceled multiple practices.

• Leonard was allowed to live in San Diego and commute from there, which often made him late for team flights.

• Leonard and George typically didn’t speak to the media until at least 45 minutes after games concluded, under the guise of postgame treatment or workouts. This usually resulted in their teammates speaking with the media first, and for longer, essentially becoming the public voices of the team.

• Teammates also believed that Leonard and George were able to pick and choose when they played. Not only did they sit out games entirely, but also at times they accepted or declined playing time in the moment.

While star treatment can work in a locker room, and some of these practices aren’t necessarily unique to the Clippers, it resulted in a lack of buy-in from this particular group, league sources said.
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The 2018-19 Clippers had a fun, light energy about them. The group visibly enjoyed being around one another, in part because they were a ragtag group with middling expectations.

Conversely, the 2019-20 Clippers had a much different vibe. Those around the team often categorized it as “off” or “weird.” The players didn’t joke around as much before or after games. They were far more serious — and quiet. Players, coaches and staffers became less friendly with and available to the media.
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Teammates had a level of acceptance of Leonard’s preferential treatment, as his status as a two-time champion and two-time Finals MVP — the then-reigning Finals MVP, at that — was indisputable.

But George’s treatment was more of an issue within the locker room, league sources said. George, while a perennial All-Star and All-NBA candidate, didn’t carry the same cachet with his teammates. There was a sentiment among certain teammates of, “What have you accomplished in the playoffs?” multiple league sources said.

The special treatment might have gone over better in the locker room had Leonard’s and George’s teammates felt they had a stronger relationship or bond with their superstar colleagues. Several members of the locker room felt that injuries should have allowed Leonard and George ample time to establish a better rapport with their teammates, but that never happened.

According to league sources, Leonard oftentimes was hanging out with close friend and Clippers assistant coach Jeremy Castleberry, whom Leonard has known since high school. George stuck with Reggie Jackson, one of his best friends in the league, and former Oklahoma City teammate Patrick Patterson
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But the same issues that the Clippers faced in the regular season transferred over to the bubble. Another point of contention was that certain players felt teammates were looking out for their contracts more than the team, league sources said. Earlier in the season, teammates had felt Harrell was looking out for his numbers because he was a pending free agent, and that belief continued into the bubble.

With higher stakes and pressure, there were several blow-ups between players, with George often at the center of the tension, with teammates citing a lack of accountability from him.

In the first-round series versus Dallas, Williams and George exchanged expletives amid a heated disagreement about accountability, league sources said. In the Denver series, George and Harrell got into a verbal spat during a timeout in Game 2, as Yahoo Sports first reported.

George’s comments to the media about the team still being in the “driver’s seat” after losing Game 6 to Denver didn’t go over well with his teammates, league sources said. It was made worse by George and Jackson openly sulking together in the locker room over their poor performances, which rubbed some teammates the wrong way throughout the playoffs.
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JSM said: ↑

Such a bad look for an organization to allow this kind of s***...I love it!

Another piece leaking a lot of negatives from the Clipps last season and their roster hierarchy. This one from Jovan Buha with The Athletic
https://theathletic.com/2222210/?source=twitterhq

Broke it down into the most interesting segments and quoted them separately that way.
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JSM said: ↑

Such a bad look for an organization to allow this kind of s***...I love it!

Another piece leaking a lot of negatives from the Clipps last season and their roster hierarchy. This one from Jovan Buha with The Athletic
https://theathletic.com/2222210/?source=twitterhq

Broke it down into the most interesting segments and quoted them separately that way.
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Was thinking the same thing when I was reading the article. PG is going to run both of them off.

Also I'm really enjoying how many leaks are coming out of there from the players. Cause all that is from disgruntled players, they might be on the Lakers or Nuggets now, even, but that's stuff from players who aren't given any respect from the team or its leaders.

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was wondering why they re-upped patterson. that explains it.

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Hate to see it!

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anyone else feel that harrell is one of the main sources of these leaks?

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anyone else feel that harrell is one of the main sources of these leaks?
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I was thinking that myself and am a little concerned.

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anyone else feel that harrell is one of the main sources of these leaks?
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Could be. Jamychal Green has been praising the heart, playing together as a team, and ball movement of the Nuggets... already. He is a strong candidate as well. Lou and Bev never shut up on the court, why would they off the court (especially when they feel slighted) ? Doc might not like how he was seen as the scapegoat either.

Lots of contents of who has an issue with their pathetic entitled duo.

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