Rajon Rondo Discussion: He's A Cleveland Cavalier

Discussion in 'NBA Discussion' started by therealdeal, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,135
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    followed by blame for 3-4 gms of loses?
     
  2. Sentient Meat

    Sentient Meat - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    946
    Likes Received:
    604
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    If you are blaming the second string point guard for losses then you are missing the bigger picture.

    Think of all of NBA history... has anyone ever blamed the second string guard for losing the title?

    The big boys will get the glory so they should also get the lion's share of the blame if anything goes wrong.

    That being said... Rondo needs to do better and Vogel needs to be quick with the hook when he doesn't have it.

    But the way people love to focus on a peripheral player and scapegoat them for losing makes little sense to me.
     
  3. The Rock

    The Rock - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2014
    Messages:
    2,942
    Likes Received:
    7,450
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    We have a leadership crisis. I think Vogel is scared of Rondo. He's good friends with AD and doesn't wanna piss him off

     
  4. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,611
    Likes Received:
    60,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Join the clamor of one to make it two to fire Vogel in season or latest at the end of the season for being an autistic r*t**d. You’d have had to been in last several Game Times in case that makes no sense.
     
  5. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,135
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    if he can get creds for wins he can get blamed for loses too, works both ways i dont care bout the lvl of the player, role players can easily change the tide of the gm, good or bad
     
  6. Cookie

    Cookie The Dame of Doom Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    4,361
    Likes Received:
    21,664
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I wasn’t happy with him in the first half but he made a positive impact in the second half and I had no problem with letting him stay in.
     
  7. Sentient Meat

    Sentient Meat - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    946
    Likes Received:
    604
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    True but people never like to blame their favorite players or heroes, so it's common to blame a role player instead.

    Rondo has been poor... but it's almost become an exaggerated talking point in the media these days

    Even poor... his playmaking on his worst day far exceeds Waiters 1.5 to 1 assist/turnover ratio

    LBJ, AD, and AB won the game for us today.

    But when it comes to winning the title it will come down to LBJ and AD rising to the occasion as they did this weekend.

    A role player can become a famous footnote like DFish or Horry... but those titles belonged to Shaq and Kobe
     
    jbiggs and The Showtime Mamba like this.
  8. The Showtime Mamba

    The Showtime Mamba - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,017
    Likes Received:
    3,456
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Rajon Rondo moves to 15th all NBA assist leader regular season after today's game. Rajon Rondo passes Lenny Wilkens who played for the St Louis Hawks, the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Seattle Supersonics among other teams as well as having a long coaching career. Congratulations Rondo. Every assist you get is an assist for the purple and gold now.
     
  9. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,790
    Likes Received:
    23,927
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
  10. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    18,253
    Likes Received:
    70,558
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He looked better when we went with AD at C. He's going to get important minutes (even though they're dipping a little) that's clear. I think our best bet for him is a lineup of
    AD
    Morris
    Kuz/Waiters
    KCP
    Rondo

    There's enough offense there and other creators he can zip the ball around, P&R, and drive and kick.
     
  11. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  12. Pioneer10

    Pioneer10 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,075
    Likes Received:
    13,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I mean how long this can continue?

    Caruso had a bad game but he had a bad game for a guy who play at an NBA level.
    Rondo is playing like a G league player. Like a lot of G league player he can have a good stretch in a game but he's just bad. Last night against the Nets was frankly comical: it's like the Lakers are like a kid trying to figure out how much they can annoy a teacher before getting detention right now with his minutes.
     
    Cookie and Savory Griddles like this.
  13. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2014
    Messages:
    9,152
    Likes Received:
    22,367
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    But the advanced metrics show his SWAG is off the charts.
     
  14. Punk-101

    Punk-101 - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,870
    Likes Received:
    7,853
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    You misspelled AST:TO ratio.
    (Just teasing @Sentient Meat )
     
    sirronstuff and Sentient Meat like this.
  15. LooN3y

    LooN3y - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    223
    Likes Received:
    245
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Offline

    I loved Do after his stint in Sac and NO. It showed he can truly run a team and squashed the notion of being over hyped with the big 3 early in his career.



    But yes, man some plays are terrible, but regardless of that fact I still feel more confident with rondo in crunch time in the playoffs than Caruso.
     
  16. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,727
    Likes Received:
    77,090
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Online
    I'd play Rondo, Caruso, KCP all at once actually. And probably Dion Waiters and Danny Green. Wait a minute, he's too tall, Insert Avery Bradley instead of Green.

    -- Dantoni (probably)
     
  17. Juronimo

    Juronimo - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    2,530
    Likes Received:
    6,918
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    plays with one's and zero's
    Location:
    the sky's the limit
    Offline
    I just had flashbacks of Steve Blake attempting to "guard" big guards like Manu Ginobli and Klay Thompson and getting absolutely destroyed, and Wesley Johnson playing PF.
     
    Cookie and sirronstuff like this.
  18. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,727
    Likes Received:
    77,090
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Online
    Next level training right there

     
  19. karacha

    karacha Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    8,639
    Likes Received:
    27,994
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He's passing like Chris Paul!
     
  20. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,611
    Likes Received:
    60,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    2 thoughts. Good news / bad news dept. Good that we are seeing clips of our guys again doing basketball things. Oh hell yeah!! Bad news ..... yep prepare for the oligatory 2-3 mustard is off the hot dog turnovers from him most games.

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page