Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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  1. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't know if it's necessarily that. My interpretation (if Mr. Rambis is to be believed) is they want Lebron in the playoffs. A swing and miss this summer may see us on the outside looking in again. If we go sign Vucevic and a shooter like Reddick with our cap space, we are at least going to make a push into second round territory...maybe conference final if an injury happens. We have missed the playoffs 6 straight years. That's a terrible streak for ANY team, let alone the NBA's marquee franchise. Its a new ownership group in a way as well.
     
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    The other option I'd be discussing as a Plan C (meaning we strike out on AD and the top FAs) in the FO, that would make us competitive now while also developing for the future would be:
    -Sign DeAndre Jordan to a reasonable, incentive laden contract (I want Clippers DJ, not Dallas DJ)- control the paint, rebounds, doesnt need the ball
    -Sign Butler to a max deal
    -Resign Rondo to a reasonable deal
    -Resign Chandler cheap
    -SIgn some shooters- Reddick might take a reasonable deal

    That leaves us with a core, for about 2 years, of LBJ, Butler, Ball, Ingram, Kuzma with Hart, Rondo, Reddick, DJ and maybe another shooter. That's not particularly exciting, but its a fairly deep team and would be at least competitive. We can then see how the young talent develops and adjust accordingly, after LBJ fades.
     
  3. Mr. Rambis

    Mr. Rambis - Rookie - LB Verified Insider

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    Great insight @abeer3 and @Winning Guy ! Let me actually take some of your points a little further...

    I have no proof of this, but my hunch is that the NBA wants LeBron in the playoffs, but doesn't care about him winning a championship, so they want the Lakers to take the lowest risk option to get to the 2nd round, which might entail bringing in a Bradley Beal type instead of trying to get Anthony Davis.

    Generally in these cases, you follow the money. The NBA got involved because LeBron wasn't playing the postseason, so they'll do anything they can to ensure that doesn't happen.

    In any case, I'll know soon enough what the rationale is here.
     
  4. Mr. Rambis

    Mr. Rambis - Rookie - LB Verified Insider

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    Yep @Savory Griddles ! Beat me to the punch! This is just my guess though, I have not heard this line of thinking from anyone involved in the situation. When things open up I'll know more. I hope anyways...
     
  5. Savory Griddles

    Savory Griddles Moderator Staff Member

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    Please...No Rondo. Caruso is better than Rondo at this point. Not even joking.
     
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    Really? Not seeing that the same way I guess.
     
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    Ive been saying the same for weeks. DeAndre and butler along with Zo/Ball/kuz improving will get them deep into the playoffs IMO
     
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    problem is that lebron has to be on board with this. and if so, he should already be focusing his recruiting efforts on tier-2 and below in order to help out management (whom he seems to think needs help).

    i have a hard time believing lebron wasn't on board with the stars-or-bust approach. his management team tried to execute it themselves, it seems.

    in other words, the league may want second round lebron, but lebron might not.
     
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    I don’t think offer them “whatever they want” are the right words. It’ll be more alone the lines of, the best package that NOLA will get compared to other teams, but not the same that was reportedly offered at the deadline. There will be a “Laker tax” which will likely be future considerations.
     
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    kyrie and our lotto luck totally put us in the driver's seat. the press has begrudgingly been coming around.

    still, though, pretty much every big name traded of late has been a surprise. recent history says watch for davis to be traded somewhere other than boston, la, or ny.
     
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  12. Savory Griddles

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    Traded to the Spurs for DeRozan
     
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    I’m with you except for Rondo. Rondo suuuucks now, careless with the ball, awful defense, not a threat to shoot, Savory is right, Caruso genuinely outplayed him. Another shooter we might be able to go after, Bogdanovic from Indy.
     
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    lol, yes.

    though i'm not as worried about NO wanting another star, particularly one close to 30. i worry about teams jumping in with bona fide young stars as trade chips (e.g., philly with simmons, phx with booker?). forget tatum, he's not a big enough jump from our guys, imo. but those two are, just as examples. i could see both franchises gambling on AD staying, too.
     
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    If the Lakers wait 3 weeks, sign a solid FA, they gain a lot of leverage in the AD talks.
     
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    We also lose the leverage of the #4 pick being a super high asset to an actual player though. As soon as a pick is used, unless it’s on a #1 guy like Zion, the value drops considerably. So either we have to take that huge gamble and select a player we want and think the Pelicans would want, or we have to have a deal agreed to in secret and select exactly who the Pelicans want.
     
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    His defense has always pretty bad, but I guess I havent seen the big dropoff otherwise. I dobt hold the 2nd half of last season against our young guys, and dont really against RR either, if he was indeed that bad.
     
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    Oh he was that bad. He was supposed to be a vet leader and he essentially played like he didn’t give a s*** most of the time, incredibly lazy passes, passing up wide open layups to kick the ball out to others to I guess assist hunt, lazy/gambling defense. His two highlights were beating the C Bags at the buzzer and spitting on CP3. I want him as far away from this team as possible, he’s one of the biggest stats don’t tell the actual story players I’ve ever seen.
     
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    Rondo never stopped being a ******. He probably helps Wheelchair P every time he has to do a #2. Good riddance.
     
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    Uhh he was 2x 1st team NBA all defense, 2x 2nd team all defense early in his career. He defense went to s*** due to age and injuries.
     
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