Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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Agreed, if they give up everything I will lose my damn mind.

 

If we give up everything, there won’t be any point in watching

 

Theoretically, the asking price for AD should drop too.

When we offered everyone but LeBron plus offered to take on Solomon Hill’s contract, that was during the trade deadline.

We are now at summer so any team who trades for AD now “lost” half a season with him because he remained on the Pelicans, thus the trade value declines because you are renting him for a even shorter period than 5 months ago.

From the Lakers standpoint, your trade assets are a mixed bag. One could argue BI and Lonzo’s trade value went down because they both suffered injuries. BI’s is more severe because it isn’t a common basketball injury where you know for sure he comes back normal. However, the draft pick’s value went up substantially by jumping up to #4.

Having said all that, fair value in a trade does agree with @Weezy. They no longer should be able to ask for the world because that offer is gone. AD’s trade value went down because they didn’t do the deal when they could have. If they ask for #4, it should also help the Lakers justify not keeping one of the kids because that pick is worth more now post-lottery.

 

Anybody else leaning towards, let's keep all our youth including the 4th pick over injury proned Davis? The more I hear reports of them wanting everything and the kitchen sink the more I'm like f*** these guys. I think our legit offer should be Ingram, Hart, Wagner, Bonga, 4th pick and 2023 pick (unprotected, also the year LeBron is not here?)

 

The problem is that I don’t think a max FA is coming so I think we have to make a deal for AD.

 

The waiting a year thing is too risky. Especially when you factor in another wasted year of LeBron.

If Kawhi stays in Toronto that should be the nail in the coffin of that strategy.

 

I really like the idea of Zo, BI and Kawhi on the perimeter. That defense would be wild!

But outside of that, I think the kiddies need to be available for AD.

I think the health thing is overstated. First off our kiddies have had health issues themselves. Secondly, AD has had to deal with a hand me down med staff that prioritizes the Saints (which is why Griff was applauded for locking up the Suns med staff). Lastly, before this weird season of AD being pseudo shutdown, he had missed a total of 14 games in 2 seasons, which I wouldn't deem as injury prone.

If we can spare either BI, Zo or Kuz in any AD trade scenario, I consider that a win. In the West, Bron-AD would be one hell of a connection with the possible unassembly of the dubs. Now if you get a 3rd star...

#BrowDown

 

i mostly agree. we can't let him go to anyone on his list. and i don't think any of them can beat our all-in offer. that said, i don't think preserving a max slot for next year means only giving out 1-years. i've done the math (though it was imperfect, tbh), and i'm pretty sure that we can spend a good chunk of our cap--even long-term--and still be in position to make max offers next year. now, it would involve dumping most of the pieces that would be part of a davis deal right now, but it's possible that in this scenario, we're getting compensated with loads of future draft picks instead of absolutely nothing. worst case, it ends up the same scenario (lose all kids, gain davis).

the point isn't to have max--it's to be able to get there without sweating too much. it's looking grim on the FA front this year, but some of those guys may sign one-year deals, and things might go sideways between now and next june. we can be patient AND add useful players to this year's roster, imo.

 

Anthony Davis is 26 years old. Over the past 3 seasons, he has played 75, 75, and 56 games respectively. Obviously this year, most of the games he’s missed were due to the trade demand.

The narrative that AD is injury prone, or that we would be giving up our future for him, is overblown. AD is not really that injury prone and he would be our future.

 

Lakers played that game twice and it failed. Time to strike now. No more waiting.

 

im not waiting but im not overpaying either is my pt here, not hating on AD but the notion that we should give NOP anything they want to get it done is ridiculous, if this was a 26yr old lebron james than that would be different

 

I think the goal to be to try to keep one of Lonzo, BI, Kuz. But if it comes down to it, I wouldn't want to lose out on AD because we refused to include them all if that's what it takes.

There's risks on either side of the argument. You risk not succeeding with AD/giving up too early on the young guys who could develop into great players. Or you risk losing out on AD, the young guys don't develop as we hope, and we can't go far enough with them (assuming there is no max FA coming).