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Mark Cuban is punching himself for not hiring Luke.

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Maybe high profile cases are different. But in most cases there’s no reason to fabricate a story.
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As someone who has been involved with situations like this personally and professionally, none of which were high profile; I will just say there are multiple reasons why a claimed victim MIGHT fabricate a story. Money is often the culprit but not always. Revenge, attention, a twisted need for personal validation, over active imagination linked to dark fantasy are all possible causes.

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Let's HOPE the Lakers themselves never got wind of this even if perhaps Kelli Tennant's disappearance from Spectrum had perhaps a connection to her complaining if she did in fact to Spectrum officials.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-lakers-offered-retain-luke-163021466.html

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I have no idea what happened in this situation, Luke could be innocent, he could be guilty, it could indeed be a ploy for money, etc. What I don’t have a hard time with understanding is why it takes someone so long to come forward, there’s guilt and shame, trauma, fear because the man is in a position of power and many times the woman is dismissed for making waves. Also a few reasons have already been presented in this thread as she’s been referred to as a gold digger and jokes have been made about the situation like the Mark Cuban one. Why would she expect to be taken seriously by people in positions of major power and money when regular folks on a message board immediately jump to jokes about possible sexual assault? It’s a sad commentary on our society and the world we live in whether it’s true or not.

On possibly a side note to that, I think the last straw to reactions like joking, laughing, accusations of being attention and money seekers, not being believed, etc, was the #metoo movement and this current mob mentality we have when anyone is accused of anything, before we know any real facts. I wish there was a middle ground in all this, but sadly the backlash to years of men dismissing women’s claims of this sort of thing has resulted in immediate mob reactions to allegations (not yet proof) to try and ruin people’s lives. Hopefully in time we are able to figure out better ways to go about this, but as of now the me too stuff seems to have caused certain segments to just dig their heels in deeper.

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trodgers said: ↑

Weren’t there rumors that Magic had done something like this and that’s why he stepped down?
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He mentioned an article, but he never mentioned anything like this from my understanding; it was his treatment of the employees that worked under him and how he treated them during his brief tenure as President of Basketball Operations.

This had nothing to do with sexual harassment from my understanding; they are two separate issues entirely from what I have seen...IMO!. LOL.

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I have no idea what happened in this situation, Luke could be innocent, he could be guilty, it could indeed be a ploy for money, etc. What I don’t have a hard time with understanding is why it takes someone so long to come forward, there’s guilt and shame, trauma, fear because the man is in a position of power and many times the woman is dismissed for making waves. Also a few reasons have already been presented in this thread as she’s been referred to as a gold digger and jokes have been made about the situation like the Mark Cuban one. Why would she expect to be taken seriously by people in positions of major power and money when regular folks on a message board immediately jump to jokes about possible sexual assault? It’s a sad commentary on our society and the world we live in whether it’s true or not.

On possibly a side note to that, I think the last straw to reactions like joking, laughing, accusations of being attention and money seekers, not being believed, etc, was the #metoo movement and this current mob mentality we have when anyone is accused of anything, before we know any real facts. I wish there was a middle ground in all this, but sadly the backlash to years of men dismissing women’s claims of this sort of thing has resulted in immediate mob reactions to allegations (not yet proof) to try and ruin people’s lives. Hopefully in time we are able to figure out better ways to go about this, but as of now the me too stuff seems to have caused certain segments to just dig their heels in deeper.
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No. Not cut and dried like that. She wasn't raped and no signs of physical battle or injuries don't mean it could not have been very physical and frightening at the time thinking she was going to be raped. And loving probably her career working for the Lakers and Dodgers and doing TV at her young prime age. Even IF it happened who wants this done to your life now what is going to be certainly done to her facing a high powered defense attorney. All I got there usually with these things. And for some reason that career is gone at the present time who knows how long and if it was her decision or was fired for some reason. That could explain why now with Luke not still in town with Lakers. Career ruined? Just Tin Foilin'. Who knows.

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If you want some more examples of why public people might not come forward, look at the comments on this post she made a week ago. The internet is a cesspool of trash human beings I looked up her account to see if she posted anything on this, or what she’s been doing post-tv, and this is the stuff I see

https://www.instagram.com/kellimtennant/p/BwVe2E9AUlO/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=gc15xarvkoru

“I’m filing a lawsuit against you for wearing a sports bra with no rack. I’ll wait until 2021 though”

“When dad’s trust fund runs out so you have to come up with a lie from 2 years ago”

“felt cute, might ruin a coaches career later, idk”

“You’re about to ruin a man and his family over false allegations, smh”

“I see ur tryna run up a quick bag”

“Why tf you lyinnnn, hoes be tryin to find the easy bag”

“Just for the money and fame ur worthless”

“U gold digger don’t even look that good”

“For someone who was sexually assaulted she seems pretty happy”

That’s just a FEW comments I picked out. Guess how many of those were made by men vs women...

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No. Not cut and dried like that. She wasn't raped and no signs of physical battle or injuries don't mean it could not have been very physical and frightening at the time thinking she was going to be raped. And loving probably her career working for the Lakers and Dodgers and doing TV at her young prime age. Even IF it happened who wants this done to your life now what is going to be certainly done to her facing a high powered defense attorney. All I got there usually with these things. And for some reason that career is gone at the present time who knows how long and if it was her decision or was fired for some reason. That could explain why now with Luke not still in town with Lakers. Career ruined? Just Tin Foilin'. Who knows.
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Those tweets are describing what needs to happen for a criminal case to proceed forward. Her allegations obviously didn't meet those standards or else Luke would be arrested right now.

The standards for civil suits are much lower.

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revgen said: ↑

Those tweets are describing what needs to happen for a criminal case to proceed forward. Her allegations obviously didn't meet those standards or else Luke would be arrested right now.

The standards for civil suits are much lower.
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I wouldn't say "obviously," unless you believe the California justice system never makes mistakes, but this does count for something.

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Anybody watching this press conference...?

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The video is here if you follow the link, it’s only a few minutes. I’m not sure what to think, probably need a body language expert for this one

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26589322/was-scared-come-forward

Woman: Delay in Walton allegations due to fear

ESPN 8:07 PM PT

The woman accusing Luke Walton of a 2014 sexual assault said Tuesday that she was terrified the NBA coach was going to rape her and that it took her so long to publicize the allegations because she was scared.

Kelli Tennant -- a former host on Spectrum SportsNet LA, the Lakers' regional sports network -- spoke with media during a news conference Tuesday in Los Angeles after a civil lawsuit alleging that Walton sexually assaulted her was accepted by the Los Angeles County Superior Court.

Tennant alleges that Walton, then an assistant with the Golden State Warriors who was in Los Angeles on a road trip, sexually assaulted her in a Santa Monica, California, hotel room, which her attorney says happened in 2014.

"This type of behavior cannot be condoned, and no woman should ever be made to feel like a victim," Tennant said Tuesday.

Tennant had a working relationship with Walton stemming from his time as a guest analyst on Spectrum. In the lawsuit, she alleges that she met with him at the Casa Del Mar Hotel to drop off a copy of her book, "a guide for student-athletes making the transition into a world after sports," for which he wrote the foreword.

Tennant alleges that Walton invited her up to his room, where he allegedly pinned her to the bed and forcibly kissed and groped her.

"Out of nowhere, he got on top of me and pinned me down to the bed and held my arms down, with all his weight," she said of Walton, who was named head coach of the Sacramento Kings earlier this month. "He kissed my neck and my face and my chest. And as I kept asking him to please stop and to get off, he laughed at me.

"I thought he was going to rape me. I was finally able to get up after what felt like forever. And I immediately jumped up to leave the room, and he came around and grabbed me from behind and again held my arms down so I could not move. And started kissing my neck again. I kept begging him to please let go and to please stop. And he continued to laugh in my ear. He finally let me go, and I got out of the room."

Tennant said she did not go to the police or talk with officials at Spectrum after the alleged incident because she was only 25 at the time and was scared.

"When someone assaults you and you think you're going to be raped, coming forward is a scary thing," she said. "And I have spent years now dealing with this, trying to forget about it, hoping that I could push it to the side and bury it and hoping that time would heal. And that was not the case. And I feel like over this time, I was able to muster up the courage and have enough conversations with [my attorney Garo Mardirossian] where I felt comfortable to talk about this."

In the lawsuit, Tennant also alleged that Walton "forced an aggressive hug" and made a lewd remark about her outfit at a charity event the two attended in May 2017.

News of the lawsuit first surfaced Monday night in a story by TMZ that later was confirmed by ESPN.

Walton, 39, was hired to be the Lakers' head coach in 2016, after his run as a Golden State assistant. Walton and the Lakers mutually parted ways on April 12, and he was then hired by the Kings shortly after.

Walton's attorney, Mark Baute, called the allegations "baseless.''

"The accuser is an opportunist, not a victim, and her claim is not credible,'' Baute said in a statement earlier Tuesday. "We intend to prove this in a courtroom.''

Mardirossian initially said during Tuesday's news conference that they were not interested in filing a criminal complaint.

"If you go to the police a few years later, it's very difficult to put together a case where you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. That standard of care is much higher," he said. "So police departments are not very likely to get involved in a case this old at this time."

But pressed on the matter, Mardirossian said they're not "closing the door on (going to the police) right now."

"Maybe we'll be contacted by a police department that watches or listens or hears about this and wants to investigate this," he said. "We know the NBA is going to investigate this. So we'll see where this takes us."

NBA spokesman Mike Bass said earlier Tuesday that the league is speaking with the Kings and is "in the process of gathering more information." The Kings also said they are gathering additional information.

The Lakers said they were never told of the allegations when Walton was their coach and had no additional comment because he now works for another team.

The Warriors said they were "aware of the alleged incident" and gathering additional information. Warriors guard Stephen Curry didn't offer much more when asked about his former coach Tuesday.

"I know the team had a comment on it," Curry said. "That's pretty much all we can say right now."
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Mardirossian initially said during Tuesday's news conference that they were not interested in filing a criminal complaint.

"If you go to the police a few years later, it's very difficult to put together a case where you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. That standard of care is much higher," he said. "So police departments are not very likely to get involved in a case this old at this time."

But pressed on the matter, Mardirossian said they're not "closing the door on (going to the police) right now."

"Maybe we'll be contacted by a police department that watches or listens or hears about this and wants to investigate this," he said. "We know the NBA is going to investigate this. So we'll see where this takes us."
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This smells a bit fishy.

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she's hot, must be true

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This smells a bit fishy.
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This is what I don’t understand.

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Also to come out from that news conference yesterday per Plaschke in the Times this morning is that no, Kelli never went to Spectrum officials over what happened and continued to happen. Just says she left in 2017. Spectrum went different direction or left of own volition? Jaimie Maggio (left) around the same time but is still working in sports media I believe. But Kelli did bring up she feared for her job if she had gone forward with complaints. 2014 -2017. Whole thing does seem odd with the timing now and why she has any confidence her word in a civil court vs Luke's will prevail for a settlement of any sort. This is going to be rough. Same defense attorney that got Derrick Rose off of far worse charges in the gang rape proceedings.

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Read somewhere, forgot where, that Kelli left to take care of her ailing fiance. They've since separated though.

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He did lose at least part of a leg in an accident before they were supposed to get married. I saw a photo the other day with her and him and a blade on his left leg. And she is doing holistic something now for present career.

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